4.7 v8

[NHWK05]

I know Scott has alot of work in his V8, I know the stock 05 4.7 has stupid low HP for what it is capable of. I can only afford bolt on engine mods, Exhaust, and intake (done) and i plan to get a superchips for it.

Now i wont be taking my jeep to the track on a reg basis and i wont be expecting to win, ( most other people there will prolly have a 5.7 or 6.1) So when i do go what do you guys realistically think i will be looking at? 16s?

After watching alot of the track vids, i have no idea what i would be up against because any hemi or other car with a v8 will prolly kick my ass. I dont know what will be a fair battle.

With (the future) Bwoody CAI, Superchips, and my exhaust i wonder what kind of WHP i will be getting out of this 4.7.

[dreamer1213]

I say...if I had to guess...you would probably see an increase of 30-40 hp with the mods you described....So think 265-275hp....that would be my guess...

4.7's have had 235 hp since the debuted in the WJ in 99...only H.O WJ's surpassed that number with 265-270 hp stock, and now the Gen II 4.7 makes 300+ hp stock..

A guy on here went to the track in CA with a WK... I think he had the same mods you mentioned, intake, exhaust and superchips, on the 4.7, and he ran a 16.5....

I ran a 15.7 in my WJ....in hott @$$ FL weather...lol!

[NHWK05]

Thats what i figured, like i said id be going for fun mostly but it would be nice to go up against a comparable opponent and beat it fair and square.

[Robert Palmer]

Mid 15's I would say. IMO.

[robpp]

just start with what you can

my 4.7 with intake and exhaust. less than 700. think the K&N was about 260 and the magnaflow was about 425 autoanything with a coupon.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/base/th_jeep_1.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/base/?action=view&current=jeep_1.flv)

[BUBBADOG]

just start with what you can

my 4.7 with intake and exhaust. less than 700. think the K&N was about 260 and the magnaflow was about 425 autoanything with a coupon.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/base/th_jeep_1.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/base/?action=view&current=jeep_1.flv)Man everytime i see that video i think of the mob lol...

[NHWK05]

My exhaust was $180 installed and my intake was $300, but i want to get the Bwoody intake if it gets made, and sell the AFE CAI. Then get the superchips.

[scjeep4.7HO]

Man get SCT instead of superchips. I know a little about the 4.7 LOL.

[NHWK05]

Man get SCT instead of superchips. I know a little about the 4.7 LOL.

Feel free to embellish.

[scjeep4.7HO]

I have been through probably over 100+ tunes through SCT. With Superchips you have (i think)

[SoCalMoparWK]

yeah!! the guy you are talking about is me.....when Ryan and I hit the tracks I was running 16.4-16.5 all day. Check my signature for what I have.

[Scottina06]

SCT doesnt have anything for the 4.7 WK

[Marlin]

Update it to 09 spec, plus the exhaust and intake etc, should net a good result ;) Ask Snott, sorry, SCOTT.

[Scottina06]

the 08-09 intake mani will get ya about 30 more ponies

[AcidCold]

the 08-09 intake mani will get ya about 30 more ponies

Manifold alone?? that is pretty good!

[scjeep4.7HO]

I don't see why not. As long as it has the NGC controller and it's not the new 300HP 4.7 SCT should work. Email hemifever@aol.com and find out. He sells them and does the tuning also.

[Scottina06]

yeah....contacted him a long time ago...nothing for the 4.7 wk

[NHWK05]

Hmm maybe a 08 intake manifold is on my list of mods now. LOL

[scjeep4.7HO]

yeah....contacted him a long time ago...nothing for the 4.7 wk


Keep checkin. They also add new pcm numbers all the time and he can actually request them to add yours!!!!! And for those who may not know, He(Sean AKA hemifever) has allot more PCM numbers that can be tuned because SCT doen't list hardly anything that they actually have a tuner for

[Scottina06]

good idea....I will email him again! I believe he is in the middle east right now on a tuning session

[scjeep4.7HO]

Wow I didn't know that.

[Scottina06]

yeah....sux a$$

[NHWK05]

Scott, What is needed to swap out the new style 4.7 Intake manifold? is it something as simple as, remove and re install or is there more involved and more $$ needed for it?

My ideal budget mod for Hp

CAI, Done
Exhaust, Done
Superchips, Need
Power Wire, Need
08+ Intake, Need
R1 Brakes, Coming soon...
Tires, soon....

[Scottina06]

you need the 08 intake and the TB adapter from airram.com. You will also need an intake that connects directly to the TB.

[NHWK05]

you need the 08 intake and the TB adapter from airram.com. You will also need an intake that connects directly to the TB.


Ok, well got the intake connected to the TB directly down pat, Just need the intake and TB adapter when i am ready to do it.

[Scottina06]

airram used to sell the combo for $494 shipped

[NHWK05]

Oooo, thats sweet, I will look in to that later. Thanks
http://www.airram.com/product.php?categoryid=855&productid=1341
Damn, thats alot for an adapter, But i guess its worth the price for true "bolt on" horse power. I did not see a "kit" or combo but if i cant get it from them where can i get an 08 intake besides the dealership? and how much to then run?

EDIT Never mind, found it. http://www.airram.com/product.php?categoryid=903&productid=1334

$514 for "bolt on:" Hp, Not too bad.

I wonder what it would produce for Hp with everything i want/have.

Exhaust,
CAI
08 Intake
Super chips
Power wire.

I hope that would get it close to 300Hp



Airram.com is a dangerous website for someone on a budget. LOL

[scjeep4.7HO]

$514 for "bolt on:" Hp, Not too bad.

I wonder what it would produce for Hp with everything i want/have.

Exhaust,
CAI
08 Intake
Super chips
Power wire.

I hope that would get it close to 300Hp



Airram.com is a dangerous website for someone on a budget. LOL


I don't wanna rain on anyone's parade but when I say HP I mean to the wheels. It doesn't matter if you make 2K HP if it doesn't get to the ground. With that being said your not gonna get 300 HP with just a few bolt ons. It's not that easy, I wish it were. I have been to the dyno and you would be surprised to see what some cars put down and you also leave the dyno with more respect for when someone says a big HP number (and usually a bruised ego because no one ever makes the power they think they will).

I saw a 2WD 4.7 Ram lay down 175HP and a HEMI only make In the low 200's. I also seen a built 383 only make a 370HP run.

[Scottina06]

Oooo, thats sweet, I will look in to that later. Thanks
http://www.airram.com/product.php?categoryid=855&productid=1341
Damn, thats alot for an adapter, But i guess its worth the price for true "bolt on" horse power. I did not see a "kit" or combo but if i cant get it from them where can i get an 08 intake besides the dealership? and how much to then run?

EDIT Never mind, found it. http://www.airram.com/product.php?categoryid=903&productid=1334

$514 for "bolt on:" Hp, Not too bad.

I wonder what it would produce for Hp with everything i want/have.

Exhaust,
CAI
08 Intake
Super chips
Power wire.

I hope that would get it close to 300Hp



Airram.com is a dangerous website for someone on a budget. LOL

Honestly I dont know....but i doubt you would get to 300 hp with this. I have a set of cams and i hope to be close to 300 hp....and like scjeep4.7ho says....thasts not at the wheels

[NHWK05]

Honestly I dont know....but i doubt you would get to 300 hp with this. I have a set of cams and i hope to be close to 300 hp....and like scjeep4.7ho says....thasts not at the wheels

OK, that is fine, it was just wishful thinking to get it to 300hp with bolt on mods. I knew it would not be WHP either. After reading what dyno test results actually show for WHP that makes me feel a little better about my little 4.7.

Realistically engine and performance mods wont happen until after christmas, i just like to plan things out for the future so i know what i am up against.

Everything i do to this jeep needs to be low key as far as install and noticability. (i dont want things to be visually noticable to family and my finace. sneaky sneaky lol)


All things will happen in due time, i like keeping it simple, bolt on and straight forward for mods like these. :D

[Scottina06]

Good Plan! i did the same with my WK to make sure i did every mod correctly. I dont want soemone to look at my WK and say the mod looks bad....like the custom "humps" I made.....LOL

[mzh29]

I don't wanna rain on anyone's parade but when I say HP I mean to the wheels. It doesn't matter if you make 2K HP if it doesn't get to the ground. With that being said your not gonna get 300 HP with just a few bolt ons. It's not that easy, I wish it were. I have been to the dyno and you would be surprised to see what some cars put down and you also leave the dyno with more respect for when someone says a big HP number (and usually a bruised ego because no one ever makes the power they think they will).

I saw a 2WD 4.7 Ram lay down 175HP and a HEMI only make In the low 200's. I also seen a built 383 only make a 370HP run.


So true, I remember watching a horsepower TV show a few years ago on spike where they had a 98 mustang gt on the dyno. Stock it put down like 185

[Scottina06]

lOL....yeah...their drivetrain loss on all vehicles. Its usually a little more on AWD vehicles...but averages 17%

[scjeep4.7HO]

lOL....yeah...their drivetrain loss on all vehicles. Its usually a little more on AWD vehicles...but averages 17%


They claim a 25% loss give or take on AWD... That's a big chunk

[Scottina06]

oh yeah....that sucks

[NHWK05]

Drive train, who need it... seriously. LOL

[AcidCold]

So would the ecu require reprogramming for the 08 manifold? it would suck to lose the SC programmer.

[Scottina06]

no.......and I will have my 08 intake mani and tb adapter for sale very soon

[NHWK05]

no.......and I will have my 08 intake mani and tb adapter for sale very soon


Damn! you keep selling all the stuff i want when i have absolutely 0 $. How much? Maybe we can work out a payment plan. :)

[mzh29]

no.......and I will have my 08 intake mani and tb adapter for sale very soon


Why ya selling?

[jeeppro]

how much scott

[Scottina06]

Why ya selling?

bigger and better things bro.....hopefully forced induction...soon!

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how much scott


I have to do some repairs to the finish and then I will post it...probably $400.....or $375 unfinished(unpainted)

[jeeppro]

where would u get the forced air induction ?

[NHWK05]

bigger and better things bro.....hopefully forced induction...soon!

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I have to do some repairs to the finish and then I will post it...probably $400.....or $375 unfinished(unpainted)

PM'd

[Scottina06]

where would u get the forced air induction ?

....thast what i have to look into

[jeeppro]

4.7

http://www.ststurbo.com/home for the 4.7
(http://www.ststurbo.com/home)

[Scottina06]

Thanks Troy...but there is a shop closer to me in Ohio that i plan on contacting while I'm off work next week

[NHWK05]

So is forced air induction the same as turbo?

[scjeep4.7HO]

So is forced air induction the same as turbo?


There both way of forcing induction just different ways of doing it.

[NHWK05]

There both way of forcing induction just different ways of doing it.


Oh, ok. So what is the way that scott is thinking of doing? I did not know there was another way.

[scjeep4.7HO]

Supercharger (ran off of the crank) or turbo (ran off the exhaust flow)

they both in essence take the air and compress it and ram it into the engine.

[Scottina06]

the shop in Ohio uses turbos....but airram has the sullivan 4.6 intake that can use any 4.6 supercharger

[scjeep4.7HO]

the shop in Ohio uses turbos....but airram has the sullivan 4.6 intake that can use any 4.6 supercharger

Yes but his supercharger set up is not finished yet.

[Scottina06]

yeah...that will probably be something I'll have to figure out on my own,.....like the 08 intake on a wk

[jeeppro]

hey scott if i just bought the 70mm throttle body from airram will my intake fit on it

[jeeppro]

and any mod to do the tb

[Scottina06]

hey scott if i just bought the 70mm throttle body from airram will my intake fit on it

yes

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and any mod to do the tb

have you thought about fastman. the stock 4.7 TB is cheap

[jeeppro]

whats that

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would i notice the differnce if i bought the 70 mm throttle body

[Scottina06]

your not gonna notice much with a TB without other mods...the TB is a supporting mod for bigger mods....LOL