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AcidCold
07-06-2009, 06:32 PM
Hey guys,

I learned first hand that the best modification for offroading is armor!
Best in quality and looks is 4xGuard.com. They hold up to extreme crawling and have a great powdercoat that holds up very well, i will post pictures of my armor once i get a chance.
Feel free to ask any questions :thumbsup:

Here is the side HC guard rails.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Acidcold/DSC01189.jpg

Front HC guard.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Acidcold/DSC01191.jpg

This is Russ' WK owner of 4xGuard, rear HC guard.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Acidcold/rearguardhc.jpg
blackpepper
07-06-2009, 06:51 PM
I've seen the armor that 4xguard offers for the rear.. I don't really like the look of that but the rest of their products look/perform great imo.. is there anything else out there for rear protection?
AcidCold
07-06-2009, 06:53 PM
So far he is the only builder for the WK community, i which others would build cool stuff for us. The rear HC skid is the only thing available, not for long i hope.
Marlin
07-06-2009, 07:13 PM
Timely thread mate thanks!

You seem to be a man in the know. I'm considering keeping my Ltd when the lease is up and making a fairly big transforamtion as it would no longer be my daily. I wonder what lift you'd suggest? I know there are several issues when lifting due to stability control.

Now, please bear with me ok :)
My thoughts are to lift it as much as possible (4"?), and to keep my 22 x 9.5" wheels and put the largest aggresive tire on that will fit. I'd then fit it out with armour etc.... what are your thoughts and suggestions..... don't hold back if I'm being silly mate :)
AcidCold
07-06-2009, 07:34 PM
No such thing as silliness benno, i would love to see a lifted rig on nice 22's with some Nitto's.
I would recommend a Supelift 4'' with the EGR module to keep the stability control tamed. The lift keeps jeeps stock geometry which will feel like stock. The lift can handle a 34.5'' tall tire with minor trimming on the infamous uni-frame pinch weld. 33'' are better in my opinion.
For tires, i would look into Nitto's dune grappler in 305/45/22 since it's the closest to 33'' on a 22'' rim.
BDS is also another well built system, it looks like the SL but the only difference it's out back. The BDS has adjustable upper and lower control arms which eliminate the need for relocation brackets like the once offered on SL's system (with brackets, you will have more metal sticking out which means rocks will love you)
The down fall of the BDS is that they don't offer a EGR module to correct the stability control like SL has. you can always purchase the SL with the BDS upper and lower control arms for a great setup.
blackpepper
07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Nitto Terra Grapplers, Ben!!!!!!
Marlin
07-06-2009, 08:32 PM
No such thing as silliness benno, i would love to see a lifted rig on nice 22's with some Nitto's.
I would recommend a Supelift 4'' with the EGR module to keep the stability control tamed. The lift keeps jeeps stock geometry which will feel like stock. The lift can handle a 34.5'' tall tire with minor trimming on the infamous uni-frame pinch weld. 33'' are better in my opinion.
For tires, i would look into Nitto's dune grappler in 305/45/22 since it's the closest to 33'' on a 22'' rim.
BDS is also another well built system, it looks like the SL but the only difference it's out back. The BDS has adjustable upper and lower control arms which eliminate the need for relocation brackets like the once offered on SL's system (with brackets, you will have more metal sticking out which means rocks will love you)
The down fall of the BDS is that they don't offer a EGR module to correct the stability control like SL has. you can always purchase the SL with the BDS upper and lower control arms for a great setup.

+ Rep for you mate! Thanks!

So, a BDS system with the an EGR mod from Superlift would be the go?
Whats the general experience with reliabilty off-raod? I've read there's been a few front CV's broken, is this a common fault when running big tires?
I'll admit to being a bit of a rapist off-road, nothing's too tough to have a crack at if you know what I mean :D

Edit: just re-read it, so Superlift kit, with BDS arms, and Superlift EGR is that right?
AcidCold
07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
Honestly, our IFS is pretty strong compared to any other system so it's not that easy to break it unless you are trying to break.
It's all common sense when wheeling and it's very important to have a spotter for your safety and your vehicles safety. if you try to do some extreme rock crawling, then you are asking for trouble. take it slow and stay away from small puddles that might seem a few inches deep and end up being feet deep! LOL yes, i am talking from experience! LOL What i do on some unfamiliar trails, i will walk it before i wheel it, make sure you have over passes in case if the trail has sections built for vehicles that require winches.
One rule that should be followed even by pros is, never wheel alone! it can be very dangerous.
Quote,
Edit: just re-read it, so Superlift kit, with BDS arms, and Superlift EGR is that right?
That is correct.
Marlin
07-06-2009, 09:06 PM
Yeah I've wheeled plenty before, in a variety of machinery. Drowned many, broken countless axles, even rolled one quite impressively :) So the driveleine is pretty strong? I ask because these elec locking diffs make some wicked noises and groans when giving it a hard time on the beach.
NHWK05
07-07-2009, 07:24 AM
Acid, You need to stop this redic threads.

You are making me want to lift my wk and that will NEVER happen. Ugh. Sigh.
blackpepper
07-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Yeah I wouldn't mind an extra two inches.. :D

Do you recommend a BB should I just get the Rocky Road setup.... hypothetically speaking.
NHWK05
07-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Yeah I wouldn't mind an extra two inches.. :D

Do you recommend a BB should I just get the Rocky Road setup.... hypothetically speaking.

Keep it stock. Once you lift it its never enough, and then you want bigger tires and bigger lift and more HD parts and it never ends and next thing you know your divorced, living in your jeep eating spam trying to figure out where money for more lift and bigger tires uis going to come from. Just say no. :D
blackpepper
07-07-2009, 10:54 AM
"no!!"

:(
AcidCold
07-07-2009, 01:00 PM
Haha your right about no being big enough!! i did love my RRO lift and 32's
Best performance on and offroad.
Blackpepper, i would recommend you go with the OME lift if you really want the best in small lifts, RRO is very good but they take waaaay to long to ship since they bull *hit you around. not to mention there harsh shocks that they offer!

Ben, it is very normal for the gears to make noices, i been on wranglers and xj's which do the same thing. our suspension is superior and if mixed with a proven lift, you will be just fine.

Kyle, just lift it!! you know you want too.. LOL
blackpepper
07-07-2009, 01:14 PM
Cool, I have the Bilstein HDs so I'm not worried about the shocks they offer although I have heard stories.
NHWK05
07-07-2009, 01:31 PM
Kyle, just lift it!! you know you want too.. LOL


Temptation... Must resist...
Lifted_up
07-08-2009, 08:38 AM
HAHA.....I know you want to! :D Just do it! Lift it!
Lifted_up
07-08-2009, 10:33 AM
Hey Acid...any idea where the cheapest place would be to get the mopar skids. My jeep didn't come with them and I've been wanting them. I've come close to needing them quite a bit too.
robpp
07-08-2009, 11:20 AM
i got the front one at the local dealer. i printed a price from an online place, sans shipping. they matched the price within a buck and I didnt have to pay shipping for a 20 pound front skid.

point is, with the weight, if you want mopar ones, try local first.
Lifted_up
07-08-2009, 11:30 AM
That is a good point! Thanks.
:)
AcidCold
07-08-2009, 04:10 PM
Lifted up,
Try Justforjeeps.com, they have everything you need and you get a discount since you are a member of JG.
Go to the vendor section.
Lifted_up
07-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Kool...thanks! I'll check it out.
SoCalMoparWK
07-17-2009, 10:23 PM
I kinda want to try the grill thing, but still debating. If I want to go street or dirt
Megatron
07-18-2009, 07:20 AM
I kinda want to try the grill thing, but still debating. If I want to go street or dirt

Do both homie ! :cool:
JETLIFE
07-18-2009, 08:01 AM
^^ I did! ;)
Megatron
07-18-2009, 10:41 AM
^^ I did! ;)

:cool:..
WSP Jeep
08-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Try Rough Country if you are looking to save money on a BB. Here is the link; http://roughcountry.com/jeep_wk_2.html
OBXJeep
02-15-2010, 07:19 PM
Just bought my 4xguard front skid plate. Cant wait for it to get here and to install it!
mikskillz
02-16-2010, 03:35 PM
superlift!
mikskillz
02-16-2010, 03:38 PM
So far he is the only builder for the WK community, i which others would build cool stuff for us. The rear HC skid is the only thing available, not for long i hope.


these guys seem to be trying to get into the game. never heard of them till i came across them on FB:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#!/pages/Saguaro-4x-Components/147791420661?ref=sgm

http://www.saguaro4xcomponents.com/
surfb
02-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Lift it,it feels good
AcidCold
02-16-2010, 05:19 PM
these guys seem to be trying to get into the game. never heard of them till i came across them on FB:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#!/pages/Saguaro-4x-Components/147791420661?ref=sgm (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#%21/pages/Saguaro-4x-Components/147791420661?ref=sgm)

http://www.saguaro4xcomponents.com/

Nice! can't wait to see what they look like. Would love front and rear bumpers on this thing.
BenReardon
02-17-2010, 06:40 AM
I already want a bigger lift and tires, and I think this has been on for two months now. hahahaha. Looking to armor up this summer.
OBXJeep
02-17-2010, 06:58 PM
I already want a bigger lift and tires, and I think this has been on for two months now. hahahaha. Looking to armor up this summer.


Haha I hear ya. Been thinking that exact same things:D
OBXJeep
02-17-2010, 07:01 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#!/pages/Saguaro-4x-Components/147791420661?ref=sgm

http://www.saguaro4xcomponents.com/[/QUOTE]

I like the D-shackle mounts. Might have to get some of those from him.
GCL06
02-20-2010, 06:27 AM
Call me stupid but what are the problems that the SL EGR module fixes? On a scale of 1-10 how necessary would you call it? Thing's hellah expensive and my ass is tight as could be
AcidCold
02-20-2010, 01:06 PM
Nick, i have not installed the EGR since i don't have any issues, i am wondering what the problems are myself. Seems fine at WOT or hard turns.
mikskillz
02-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Call me stupid but what are the problems that the SL EGR module fixes? On a scale of 1-10 how necessary would you call it? Thing's hellah expensive and my ass is tight as could be

the EGR allows your ESP to work as it was designed.

without it the ESP would activate prematurely. Just going around a turn at normal speeds would cause it to activate. this corrects about 95% of that.

it also adjusts shift points and the speedo for larger tires.

http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/modules/


I would not have lifted my truck at all w/out it. The ESP is a good active safety feature and i count on my vehicle to transport my kids.

on a scale of 1-10 (10 being most important) to me its an 11