My HID Install

[LipschitzWrath]

Hey guys. Some of you have seen this at other sites so I apologize for the redundancy. But I HAD to show it off to my new buds here at JeepGarage.org!!!

Many of you have already seen my thread on my install of my Xtreme Digital 6500K Highs/Lows/Fogs HID's. If you haven't, I can move that thread over to this forum, too.

I decided to clean up the wiring a bit, and I also wanted to incorporate harnesses that use Bosch relays. I am still trying to get my SmartBeams to work with my HID's and the only thing I can think of is to try solid-state relays, which use the same ISO pinout as a Bosch relay. Eventually, I should be able to just swap the relays to try it.

Anyways, here are the results. I think it turned out well, let me know what you think:


First off, here was the final product of my first go around:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/BigSig1.jpg


Here's another view of how I used to have it wired:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/OldDrv.jpg


And here's the new IMPROVED setup:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/NewPass.jpg


Here's a comparison photo:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/Comparo.jpg


And both sides finished:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/NewBoth.jpg


I moved the ballasts to better allow me to hide the wiring. As you can see, I've minimized the amount of exposed wiring:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/NewPassClose.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/NewDrv.jpg


I hard mounted the igniters this time instead of just letting them hang. I also labeled everything to minimize headaches in the event something malfunctions:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/IgnitersPass.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/IgnitersDrv.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/NewDrvClose.jpg


And finally, I relocated the relays to a more hidden position. This is, in my opinion, the coolest thing about the install:
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/RelaysFrt.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/RelaysBotClose.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Rewire/RelaysBot.jpg


Well, that's it guys. Everything works and even better than before. Let me know what you think

[Robert Palmer]

Thats the cleanest install ever. Great write-up and great work!

[B.P.O.D]

incredible work bro!!! cleanest install ever seen!!!

[White WK Swagga]

Wow!!! I wish I could do mine like that... Great work bro...Very clean work...

[B.P.O.D]

can we see pics of the hids please????

[LipschitzWrath]

Yeah I'll pull the pics off the "other" site

[B.P.O.D]

do you also have hids in the reverse? if so how and where and how much and pics:)

thanks bro!

[LipschitzWrath]

Here ya go!

Here are those turn signal bulbs in parking light mode
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Look at how bright just the turn signal bulbs are! My goal was to have all forward facing lights be white.
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And here are the bulbs in turn signal mode.
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Here are the lows and fogs on together
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And the highs and lows on together
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And here are the rear fog lights
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[dreamer1213]

Super clean install for sure. Looks great but dammit thats a lot of wires and parts....lol...

[LipschitzWrath]

do you also have hids in the reverse? if so how and where and how much and pics:)

thanks bro!

I don't have reverse HID's... yet. I'm working with DCSpecial to make a kit that is better quality than the one that is currently offered by companies such as DaBear's. Those kits baiscally have you "epoxy" the bulbs to the housing - I'm not too big on that idea.

DC and I are trying to get some little aluminum adapters machined that would accept a std bulb size (say, H3 for example) and then twist into the housing, no epoxy needed. It's a work in progress.

YoungMedic has reverse HID's and even some pictures over at the red site. I don't wanna link there for fear of rule-breaking. Let me just say, they are SUPER BRIGHT! It really makes me want them!

[B.P.O.D]

I don't have reverse HID's... yet. I'm working with DCSpecial to make a kit that is better quality than the one that is currently offered by companies such as DaBear's. Those kits baiscally have you "epoxy" the bulbs to the housing - I'm not too big on that idea.

DC and I are trying to get some little aluminum adapters machined that would accept a std bulb size (say, H3 for example) and then twist into the housing, no epoxy needed. It's a work in progress.

YoungMedic has reverse HID's and even some pictures over at the red site. I don't wanna link there for fear of rule-breaking. Let me just say, they are SUPER BRIGHT! It really makes me want them!

pics look great bro!!! have you had any issues with the dual led bulbs? few people here are having issues with them not working properly. http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=7

yeah i have seen the youndmedic pics and they are bright!!!

i agree with you, i wouldn't want to epoxy anything in the lights! hopefully you can work something out! please keep us informed on that!

[LTrainGC]

Wow... amazing install - so clean. I'm assuming you had to make your own wiring to have the lengths that you needed?

Makes me want to redo mine.

[LipschitzWrath]

pics look great bro!!! have you had any issues with the dual led bulbs? few people here are having issues with them not working properly. http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=7

yeah i have seen the youndmedic pics and they are bright!!!

i agree with you, i wouldn't want to epoxy anything in the lights! hopefully you can work something out! please keep us informed on that!

I have no issues with my bulbs. I'm willing to bet I know what the problem is with most of the guys. I'll check it out.

[B.P.O.D]

great!!! thanks!!! hopefully you can figure out the issue:)

[LipschitzWrath]

Wow... amazing install - so clean. I'm assuming you had to make your own wiring to have the lengths that you needed?

Makes me want to redo mine.

Yes, all the wiring is custom length, except for the ballast wiring, which cannot be shortened.

[coffee]

nice work man! How long did it take you?

[White WK Swagga]

Do you have any issues with the hid highs? To flash people do you have issues because the hid warm up's?

[LipschitzWrath]

nice work man! How long did it take you?

1st go-around: 6 hours

2nd go-around: 4 hours

[Matt]

Wow! I love the install man! I love the OCD wiring... I'm the same way, lol.

[LipschitzWrath]

Do you have any issues with the hid highs? To flash people do you have issues because the hid warm up's?

TBH, the highs are mainly just for show. The only time I (can) use them is on the loneliest of roads. The low beams project more than enough light for pretty much any driving situation I might encounter. I already get flashed occasionally with the low beams. It is like instant flash if I have my highs on.

If I flash someone, it does get their attention because HID's flash to full brightness when you first flick them on as the bulb arc "ignites". But yes, the warm up time is about 10 seconds. If I drive with them on and get them warmed up, I can flick them off and flick them back on within about 20 seconds without any noticeable brightness reduction.

However, I think we all know that this isn't good for the HID components. HID's are meant to come on and stay on. Repeated on/off switching will make them fail, or so I've been told. My experience with HID lights (5 years or so by now) is that even if you abuse HID lights, they will still outlast most halogens. They are just more expensive to replace when they do fail.

To date, I have NEVER experienced a failure of any HID component. This includes ballasts, bulbs, ignitors, relays, etc. NEVER!!!

[White WK Swagga]

Great +reps for you my friend... :thumbsup:

[LipschitzWrath]

LOL, I just noticed your avatar, Swagga. I love that Chapelle episode!!! Tyrone is hilarious! Did you ever see the Fear Factor one?

[White WK Swagga]

No but i'm going to look it up now. LMAO

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LMFAO Elk pen*s with hot sauce... LOL

[LipschitzWrath]

Yeah, that was a pretty good episode...

"I won't lie, Joe Rogan. This ain't the first time I've ate p*nis."

OMG, that is so funny.

[White WK Swagga]

"I'd like to finish reading my newspaper. I haven't had a chance to sit still and read in so long" LMFAO The intervention episode was funny too...

[LipschitzWrath]

Yeah, that episode was hilarious...

Sells that family's home and throws "Tyrone's $150,000 Crack Party"

[White WK Swagga]

"Is this the 5 o-clock free crack giveaway???" LMFAO

[nifty97z]

Hey bud, I need help with my install; sending PM your way (nice write up...again LOL!!)

[LipschitzWrath]

Here ya go!

Here are those turn signal bulbs in parking light mode
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/TurnSignalWhite.jpg

Look at how bright just the turn signal bulbs are! My goal was to have all forward facing lights be white.
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/TurnSignalFront.jpg

And here are the bulbs in turn signal mode.
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/TurnSignalAmber.jpg

Here are the lows and fogs on together
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/FogsLows.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/FogsandLows.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/LowsFogsFront.jpg

And the highs and lows on together
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/HighsandLows.jpg

And here are the rear fog lights
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l421/jasonlipka/HID%20Kit%20Install/Rear.jpg

[XenonDepot]

Wow.... Great installation! In my 8 years of seeing installation posts I think that this may be the winner for cleanest and most interesting installation!

Steve

[LipschitzWrath]

Wow.... Great installation! In my 8 years of seeing installation posts I think that this may be the winner for cleanest and most interesting installation!

Steve

Feel free to use any photos, etc on your site. I'd love to see my jeep on there. Let me know if I can help in any way.

[XenonDepot]

Thanks bud! Will get this up on our testimonials page!

Steve

[Scottina06]

hey bro....ever thought of the 08-09 projectors? I have awrite up on how I did it just using a simple HID relay harness...but i would love to see you tackle it.....LOL

[LipschitzWrath]

hey bro....ever thought of the 08-09 projectors? I have awrite up on how I did it just using a simple HID relay harness...but i would love to see you tackle it.....LOL

I love the cutoff/performance of projectors, but I never have really looked into it. I might not be opposed. What exactly are you saying. Gotta link to that write-up???

[Scottina06]

the headlight harness for the 08-09 HID's is totally different from the nonHID lights. Plus there is the leveling system to think about as well. I was just saying it would be cool to see you do it the right way instead of how I did it.

[Matt]

Edit, found it.

[LipschitzWrath]

Linky???

the headlight harness for the 08-09 HID's is totally different from the nonHID lights. Plus there is the leveling system to think about as well. I was just saying it would be cool to see you do it the right way instead of how I did it.

[Scottina06]

http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=27

[justa4banger]

Hey Scott why hasn't someone looked into making the Auto leveling...USER leveling.. My mazda Speed 3 had HIDs... the leveling was controlled by the user on a rolling knob... If someone can come up with a way to work the leveling motors , then you could easily add a multiposition selector switch in the cab to compensate for heavier loads etc....

Screw the auto leveling.. its too much to get into.

[Scottina06]

we did look into the autoleveling and it is a nightmare of sensors, wiring etc. The biggest is the wiring. The 08-09 trucks with HID headlights have a completely different wiring harness

[nifty97z]

The manual leveling might be a great idea. I had that in my old BMW :D