WK Headlights - Rob's version

[robpp]

So many moons ago I took these headlights apart.

to do that, is NO EASY BRO.

Here is a pic of all the parts once opened. . what might not be clear is on the middle piece, the amber piece snaps over it. it has a trapezoid shape where the light shines thru. you need to put something in that void or else you'll have raw bulb shining thru, so amner bulb is required for sure.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/baked_light.jpg

to open them: not easy, pain in the ****ing ass!

230 degrees for about 13 14 minutes and lots of patience. may start to come apart, then cools, back in the oven again. you'll need some leather gloves.

I took out every chisel, scraper, screwdriver, plastic pry bar, I had in tool box and brought in the kitchen. you have to start off gently and with something rather thin. you start at the end away from the amber. there are 4 locating pin like things. you can start near one of those. so you heat it for 13-14 minutes at 230. get some good leather gloves, no holes to handle the freaking light. it ****ing hot and its big. also be careful not to break the mounts. they stick out, you are trying to apply pressure to the pry tool, i used a towel kind of trying to make sure the mount wasnt unsupported or covered. you may even need 2 towels on the table. ok so you first need to start prying with something thin. you have to kind of break the seal. youy can start to see the edges seperate. so you do that for a few inches, then you get the next size tool. now remember, as you try to pry if you twist too hard, the tool digs into the bottom black part. that can be easily chewed up by the tool you are using. so there is no exact science here. my very first one went easy oner I broke the initial seal. I have done 5 more since then, none have been that easy. 3 of them required a cool down then a complete re-heat. like leftovers. so you work that one end, those two corners. once you get it to start, you progressively use a bigger tool or more pressure to get the seperation moving along. Like I said, it may taker to long and you need a reheat. so when you got an inch or so back there you can start pulling the halves apart. you may need to use a tool to loosen glue as you go. once you have a few inches and cang et your fingers in the opening, add more force to pull them apart. the amber end is last, and it is a bit more difficult to seperate that end. lots of glue and the parts just fit together deeper.


So I finally got around to painting the amber parts. primed. color. clear. then nightshades on the inside to tone down the amber a bit.

so here it is mocked up.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/whistler_01.jpg

with the lens on it.

so everything is painted except the vertical lined areas. i didnt paint those sop they reflect the light.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/whistler_02.jpg

now if the ****ing LED HALOS will show up in a timely manner, we can get these installed.

[Megatron]

Wow rob. All I got to say. Props to you for all your hard work. I'm sure patience does have its rewards.

So yeah, the final output looks sick

[Robperez]

WOW they look FKing AWSOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too bad I don't have an oven.

[Robert Palmer]

God those lights would look so wonderful on my truck.


:D





Great job so far bro. BTW- What's the update on the Halo's?

[robpp]

there have been some posts on the lx site. i think they have solved the issue for everyone. not its just a matter of production.

when your jeep is running it sends 14.4 volts to the light circuits.
it makes the leds bright, also makes them hot so they burn out fast,
a simple resistor gets hot, ask the guys with led turns, so haviong them near the halo was NG.

so supposedly the solution is on the way. Last time I contacted FlashTech he told me to contact him around the 20th for an update.

I hope he has GOOD NEWS.

[Scottina06]

looks good Rob-----congrats!

[Dylans3960ccs]

God those lights would look so wonderful on my truck.


:D





Great job so far bro. BTW- What's the update on the Halo's?
Only if you kept the platum look grill. :)

[mzh29]

You got skills, looks awsome!

[Chaoul1]

Looking good!

[Frankie]

Looks good Rob...Time to preheat the oven! ;)

[GhettoB879]

Damn those look great what kind of paint did you use

[robpp]

automotivetouchup.com


PDM paint code - Mineral gray. and their clear too.

[White WK Swagga]

Looks great!!! Man I can't wait for you to get the halos!!!! They're going to look so sexy...

[iJeep]

Nice.. I can't wait to see them on..

[LTrainGC]

Those are sick... great work dude.

[B.P.O.D]

rob those looks awesome dude!!!!! i can see myself sending you a spare pair:) LOLOL

[dreamer1213]

Those look amazing Rob!!! I really really like it!!! You're doing some great work there!!

[Escape]

Excellent write up Rob,

All in all this wasn't really all that bad I went with 235* for 15 minutes. I had to do a total reheat about 4 times per light.

Head lights are apart and the pieces are at the shop getting color matched Brillant Black Crystal Pearl (PXR).

Now for the questions:

Where do I get this Nightshade spray tint at? How many coats, and any tricks to it?

Where do I get and what is the name/number of the chrome turn signal bulbs that blink amber like Scott has?

I'm going to pull the pin in the harness so they only blink, they will not light up for the parking lights as that will be the job of the halo's

Thanks for your help,
Escape

P.S. 2 days left till the Jeep is home :eek:

[Chaoul1]

You can get Nightshade at Advanced Auto Parts. That's where I got mine for my front turn signals.

[Escape]

You can get Nightshade at Advanced Auto Parts. That's where I got mine for my front turn signals.

Thanks man,
Escape

[robpp]

Ok we are back to updates about this mod.

The LED Halos are here. Im going with a green set. So the first order of business is to make the lights blend in with the housings, which are mineral grey, IIRC :lol:

So I got some 1/8 in pinstriping tape to protect the LEDs from the paint.

so this is the LEDs in white just to give you an idea, you know me, it'll be weeks before Im ready for the complete install :eek:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/JGCrings004.jpg

this is what I need to make blend in

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/IMG_1149.jpg

here is the pic with the light taped

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/halo_taped.jpg

and then painted mineral grey. i used a touch of ahesion promoter first. i think i am going to skip the clear!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/halo_painted.jpg

thats it for now. hoping to have it all painted by the weekend.

I still need to get to the fogs. anyone have a band saw I can borrow :eek:

[LO.7]

wow those look beautiful Rob.. Awesome job with these.

[Frankie]

Very nice Rob!

[robpp]

frankie, he said they paint them chrome for unpainted housings

[jeeppro]

how much will you charge me rob to make me some lol..

[robpp]

a hood.........


now here are some untaped.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/halo_painted2.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/halo_painted3.jpg

[jeeppro]

lol....

[Frankie]

frankie, he said they paint them chrome for unpainted housings

fawk! Lol

[Scottina06]

good job....the white sticks out too much

[RedRocker]

Looking great Rob. I wonder what it would look like lightly tinted - enough to reduce the whiteness of the exposed LEDs but not enough to affect output.

[robpp]

T i was thinking the same thing. my fear is they are green and worry about putting tint on it. I have that nightshades stuff. but considering how bright Escapes look, it just might work.



Its about a 75 dollar experiment :lol:

[dreamer1213]

Its gonna look amazig when you're done with it Rob...can't wait for the end results!! :D

[08Hemi]

yeah Rob great work! grey ghost in FULL effect!!!

[Escape]

T i was thinking the same thing. my fear is they are green and worry about putting tint on it. I have that nightshades stuff. but considering how bright Escapes look, it just might work.
Its about a 75 dollar experiment :lol:

Careful with the VHT Nightshade it has a reddish tint to it so it will alter your Halo color (green) to a brown (red and green make brown)! I used it on my amber turns inside the lights and as you can see in this pic they have a red tint to them now.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/My_Kiddos/JAMES%20STUFF/IMG_0043.jpg

Escape

[jeeppro]

nice

[robpp]

Thanks Escape.

I decided against it for now. i posted a q for the guys from Flashtec. they told me about the pinstripe tape....

[White Chocolate]

Those are sick headlights I cant wait to see the final product!!

[Tbone06]

Yeah Escapes look siiiick, Cant wait to see the green!!!!!!!

[B.P.O.D]

wow rob awesome progress bro!!!!!!!

[w87will]

They are looking Really good Rob. Nice work. Better make sure you seal them EXTREMELY good when your all done.

[robpp]

i know im worried about that already..........

too much work and time and money to go to waste in a few months or something!

[Escape]

1/4" bead of Black Adhesive Silicone all the way around and you will be fine. Just put it in the grove on the housing where the lens fits into. This is what I did to mine and it works perfectly...no issues at all!

Be warned it is messy, make sure you have a roll of paper towels handy!

Escape

[HEMIBeast]

Awesome job Rob! Let me know when I can send mine to you. ;)

[robpp]

ok. so a littlwe progress.

glued the rings to the painted inserts

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/insert_front.jpg

then took care of the wires. i added plugs here to m,ake it easier to put together.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/insert_back.jpg

then i worked for hours with heat and a small screwdriver and removed ALL the old glue.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/glue.jpg

then ran some wires through the housing. i put ty wrap on each side so the wires cant pull thru. and a blob of silicone.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/housing_inside.jpg

and the back

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/housing_back.jpg

a little test with a 9v battery

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/th_MVI_1191.jpg (http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/?action=view&current=MVI_1191.flv)

i ordered some metri-pack connectors for the back of the lights. everything will have connectors for ease of disassemby. etc.

[jeeppro]

green

[robpp]

evil green is correct troy

[jeeppro]

;)there a rumor saying you were going to make me some

[robpp]

i told you how much it would cost.......you laughed


just from getting the glue out, i have a blister the size of a golf ball in the palm of my hand..........

[jeeppro]

no how much

[Frankie]

Very nice job Rob!!!! I worked on mine this weekend...I only got one done! LOL

[robpp]

no how much

honestly dude its way too much work. taking them apart is a nightmare. i seriously have spent about 4 days working on these. a day to take them apart. a day to paint them. a day to remove ALL the glue. A day for wiring.

I got one more day to glue them together. and a last day to wire up the Jeep.

Thats six days. plus all the supplies. the halos cost 160 alone.

[jeeppro]

lol..

[Robert Palmer]

Seriously dude that is a lot of work. And I am sure what Rob would charge you is more than fair.

[jeeppro]

its a joke but they look great

[robpp]

i know troy. no offense taken by me.


at my work salary 6 days is over 2K.

i wouldnt take them on. its just too much work,

[jeeppro]

great work much patients to do that

[Frankie]

great work much patients to do that

Exactly why mine arent done yet! HAHA!

[robpp]

had a fawking hugh setback today while gluing the fawking lights together.

i been preaching about using this 3m window weld. have been told that is what the OEM uses. you dont want to use silicone bacause you cant get it apart again because haet doesnt loosen it like the oem glue.

anyway, i wait 2 weeks for this 1/4 ribbon of window weld. problem is it a tad too much to fit in the channel in the lights. so i go to napa and they have a tube of window weld for a caulk gun. i know this can be messy but i can deal with it. use lots of vinyl gloves.

so i get going on the first one. lay out a bead. i plug in the halos. i put the insert into the clear part and put it all together. its a tad messy but any glue on the clear will come off with mineral spirits. i have a strap clamp i put around it. a few spring clamps. its all looking good. i decide i need to test it. i get a 9 volt battery. i try first 2 wires and good to go, next set doesnt light up. WTF. mess with wires. no luck. must have f'ed up uinside the light. i get into panic mode as its all glued together. i yank it apart. i find a crimp connector failed. I reconnect. all this with the f ucking glue everywhere. I try to slam it all back together. i get balck glue everywhere. on the insert. the f ucking lens. oh fawk. im freaking out. yank it apart again. i run out of gloves and rags. glue is f ucking everywhere. oh what a mess. ruined a pair of jeans t-shirt. a bag of 24 cotton rags. 3 roles of paper towels. a box of exam gloves. a can of mineral spirits. acetone.

outocme: i got it all off the grey part. HOWEVER THERE ARE AZOUT 3 F UCKING SPOTS OF BLACK CEMENT INSIDE THE LIGHT lens. and stains from the mineral spirits. but i resealed them anyway. :mad::mad::mad:
good news is the other one came out perfect. well almost. a few glue spots on the outside lens only. they come off with the mineral spirits

I dont know if Ill ever get the glue off my hands. throw away the jeans and t-shirt. 4

so I just bought a pair of DEPO aftermarket ones. they SUPPOSED to open easy. I have another set of rings. these are white. so when the lights arrive, ill do another set......... meanwhile I am going to continue with ALL the wiring using these to get it all set up for the next set.

GDMFSOBMFCS :wtf:

[HEMIBeast]

That fawing sucks Rob!! Sorry to hear that. I had a similiar incident happen to me when I was doing my lights. After I had closed them up and went to test them one side wasn't working (it ended up loose off of led) so I opened them back up resoldered it and closed them up. Patience is a must with these.

[Megatron]

*sigh

Patience is the key.

[dreamer1213]

Dammit Rob...what a story!! I know how you feel....when I opened up those projectors to paint the, it was a PITA with all the glue stuff...

You'll do great tho! Just take it easy!

[Hamze]

Hello Robpp, I was veiwing your thread, i wish this might help..

I did more than a 1 month research before taking the action to insert my Halos.

The BEST way to open those lights is by a heatgun. I tried 2 sets with oven, didnt work with me, tried them with heatgun, worked like magic.

The BEST Glue that other guys on other car forums worldwide are using to seal those lights is the Nissan OEM sealer.. Rubber butyle. its what nissan use to seal their lights, and its what u can re-heat to open yout jeep lights again. i have bought it from the local dealer . I also bought the complete ACC head light HALO and fog light conversion .. but due to some of your posts and mislikes of CCFL, i am not going to install them anymore!

I am gonna switch to LED halos.. What do you recommend? ACC or Flashtech? why ? whats the difference!

i appreciate your help! :)

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/hamzewazzi/02112009992.jpg

http:// (http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/hamzewazzi/02112009993.jpg)http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/hamzewazzi/02112009993.jpg

[rvtifer]

Hamze, those wheels look nice and I really want to see more about that wide body job of yours. Show us some pics in a new thread ...

[White WK Swagga]

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/hamzewazzi/CopyofGCLWRD.jpg

You can't post something like this and not show us the rest... LOL

[Scottina06]

what does that pic tell you guys?^^^^^^

I see one glaring thing right off the bat?????? LOL

[DJ BoNiOmArIo]

scott u not making sense lol

[NHWK05]

what does that pic tell you guys?^^^^^^

I see one glaring thing right off the bat?????? LOL


Ive never seen a WK that color red. Shaved handles and i dont see a door seam so it might be custom 2 door?

[robpp]

Hello Robpp, I was veiwing your thread, i wish this might help..

I did more than a 1 month research before taking the action to insert my Halos.

The BEST way to open those lights is by a heatgun. I tried 2 sets with oven, didnt work with me, tried them with heatgun, worked like magic.

The BEST Glue that other guys on other car forums worldwide are using to seal those lights is the Nissan OEM sealer.. Rubber butyle. its what nissan use to seal their lights, and its what u can re-heat to open yout jeep lights again. i have bought it from the local dealer . I also bought the complete ACC head light HALO and fog light conversion .. but due to some of your posts and mislikes of CCFL, i am not going to install them anymore!

I am gonna switch to LED halos.. What do you recommend? ACC or Flashtech? why ? whats the difference!

i appreciate your help! :)




I never tried a heat gun but have recently opened another set without TOO much trouble. but I will get a heat gun and give it a try.

The issue with the butyl in a roll like that is that its too much, too thick, i tried it. 3M sells the same stuff called window-weld ribbon. I got the smallest thickness they have and it was still to thick.

so i used 3m window weld in a big caulking gun tube. it works great but as I posted can be messy. i was thinking of taking the butyl like you show, but the 3m one, and trying to slice it in half but I havent tried that yet.

For the LED halos themselves, i prefer Flashtec because:
1. aac has lots of complaints, especially from jeep guys and i feel like they sold the CCFLs and casued a few cars to go on fire. they have no problem selling stuff that can cause harm

2. flashtec provides and adjustable voltage regulator. the problem is most LEDs are made to withstand 12 v. if you test the jeep, it sends 14.4 to the lights. could overhaet the LEDs, not good.

BUT

you will need to check with Flashtec if they have any more Jeep ones in stock. last time I contacted tehm they only had a few left.





Last;

PLEASE MAKE A MEMBERS RIDE THREAD AND SHARE YOUR AWESOME JEEP WITH ALL OF US.

Thanks,
Rob

[Scottina06]

look at the pillar and the 1/4 panel.........what should be there?

[robpp]

a door !

he says WIDE BODY CUSTOM in his sig

[NHWK05]

look at the pillar and the 1/4 panel.........what should be there?


I edited my post before you replied. Custom 2 door? no door handles and door seam.

[Scottina06]

LOL....I posted at 3:31...you edited at 3:33.......LOL....

But yeah...you are right

[NHWK05]

Na na na, tit for tat. LOL.


I WANNA SEE THIS RIG!!!

[DJ BoNiOmArIo]

i swear this teasing shit is gonna make me blow!

reveal the damn thing already lol ...

swear these strippers not taking their clothes off is getting to me :)

[White WK Swagga]

LETS SEE IT ALREADY!!! And do those tires even need air??? LOL

[Hamze]

I never tried a heat gun but have recently opened another set without TOO much trouble. but I will get a heat gun and give it a try.

The issue with the butyl in a roll like that is that its too much, too thick, i tried it. 3M sells the same stuff called window-weld ribbon. I got the smallest thickness they have and it was still to thick.

so i used 3m window weld in a big caulking gun tube. it works great but as I posted can be messy. i was thinking of taking the butyl like you show, but the 3m one, and trying to slice it in half but I havent tried that yet.

For the LED halos themselves, i prefer Flashtec because:
1. aac has lots of complaints, especially from jeep guys and i feel like they sold the CCFLs and casued a few cars to go on fire. they have no problem selling stuff that can cause harm

2. flashtec provides and adjustable voltage regulator. the problem is most LEDs are made to withstand 12 v. if you test the jeep, it sends 14.4 to the lights. could overhaet the LEDs, not good.

BUT

you will need to check with Flashtec if they have any more Jeep ones in stock. last time I contacted tehm they only had a few left.





Last;

PLEASE MAKE A MEMBERS RIDE THREAD AND SHARE YOUR AWESOME JEEP WITH ALL OF US.

Thanks,
Rob


Hello Rob,

Thanks for the reply and the info :)

about the rubber butyl stuff, you can elongate it with your hand, ( stretch it ) so it becomes thinner, thats what i did, so it can sit in the beads, try it, it works well.

About the Jeep thread, thank you all about the replies :) i will share the jeep in thread with you guys so that i can get feedback from all of u jeep masters :) , but i need some time till i go to my country bcz i am abroad, maybe next week tops ..

And yes, the jeep ' WAS ' 2 doors , it is currently being re-painted after removing welds and converted again to ariginal 4 doors, bcz beleive it or not, it didnt pass our country inspection !@#%$ ! :( :( :( i just have few pics of 2 doors conversion..

Tread is coming next week :) hope you like guys.

[NHWK05]

Hello Rob,

Thanks for the reply and the info :)

about the rubber butyl stuff, you can elongate it with your hand, ( stretch it ) so it becomes thinner, thats what i did, so it can sit in the beads, try it, it works well.

About the Jeep thread, thank you all about the replies :) i will share the jeep in thread with you guys so that i can get feedback from all of u jeep masters :) , but i need some time till i go to my country bcz i am abroad, maybe next week tops ..

And yes, the jeep ' WAS ' 2 doors , it is currently being re-painted after removing welds and converted again to ariginal 4 doors, bcz beleive it or not, it didnt pass our country inspection !@#%$ ! :( :( :( i just have few pics of 2 doors conversion..

Tread is coming next week :) hope you like guys.


That is ****ing bull shit. Why wont it pass? Did you make it so you can get in and out of the back okay? Safe?

I would have chopped the rear doors in half and made the fronts bigger like the custom 2 door chargers that are out there.

[robpp]

my GUESS is that if you didnt extend the front doors and make the front seats foldable or slidable, you would have problems.

I wonder if you just took out the backseat and said it was a 2 seater now, if that could get past it.

it all depends what country and what they were inspecting it for I guess?????????

[Hamze]

I couldn't extend the front doors, its too hard to get rid of the inner pillar between the doors and move it backward, its also hard to extend the doors, its hard and expensive job :) ..

I dont have back seats anymore, because i intend to install 6 woofers, facing to the roof... so no back seats..

what i did is just welded the back doors, and shaved the handles + shaved back wiper, and widend the Fender flares 1 inch on each side all around, the jeep looked good ... but... it didnt pass , bcz on papers there are no 2 door jeeps , they simply refused... :( and i am now, after a week gonna continue the work on reshaping the 4 doors.... Tiring work :(

[Scottina06]

oh man Hamze...that sucks! I cant wait to see the finished product!

[HEMIBeast]

^^^ x2!!

[NHWK05]

That sounds like such a PITA. I am really sorry they had to be like that after all that work. Around here, you can find places to do the inspection that will either pass it regardless cause they want to help you out or they just dont care and then you just register it as what you want for the most part.


People take regular Cherokee and chop the back to be like a pickup and re register as a jeep truck or take the old school Comanche pickup and re build it with 2001 XJ parts and re reg and inspect it as a 2001 jeep cherokee pickup.

[robpp]

here in CO, there is only emmisions tests. NO SAFETY INSPECTIONS EVER. so long as it didnt pollute, you can do it here.

[Hamze]

:(

[White WK Swagga]

:(
Dude you should start a thread on you'r jeep so it'll be easier to follow. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE PICS!!!!

[robpp]

nate he said he would when he gets back to home base.......

[White WK Swagga]

Dude you should start a thread on you'r jeep so it'll be easier to follow. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE PICS!!!!

nate he said he would when he gets back to home base.......

Forget I ever said that.... LMAO
But seriously does those tires need air? They look bad ass but looks like solid rubber. LOL

[robpp]

you right on that Nate, it looks like tread only, no air. wowow

[White WK Swagga]

But a sexy rim it is!!!

[robpp]

i like how the inner rim itself is both red and balck, now thats details.

[White WK Swagga]

Yeah Thats Hot! 3pcs rim I guess..

[robpp]

so we left off with a slight disaster. then i busted the light taking it apart the third time.

so i got another set of oem used. I was able to reuse the center part, i already had with the halos attached. i had to do some painting and wiring to get the new parts in the same shape as the old parts..

then today i removed ALL the old glue. i used my new heat gun to do it.
that plus some small screwdrivers. it can be thick in some places.

heatgun
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/heatgun.jpg

tools of the trade
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl4.jpg

piece of old glue
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl7.jpg

this time i used the rope butyl rubber seal official name 3M window weld ribbon. thansk to hamze telling me to just stretch it out to make it a little thinner.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl6.jpg

so i put this stuff in the channel. then i put the light all together and clamped it. then i used the heat gun to seal it all back up and cranked down on the clamps one last time. i will leave it till tomorrow.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl5.jpg

here is the plug I put on the back. makes it look factory.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl3.jpg

i started this in april when i contacted FlashTech :eek:

[rvtifer]

congrats on getting this back on track ...

[Scottina06]

nice

[Hamze]

Hello! I am happy to see everything is going on fine :)

I have a question, are the flashtech LEDs perfectly allighned with the housing? I dont know if i am wrong, i see the high light halo going out of its place in the picture? or am i wrong?

when i wanna get the LEDS, i want to buy a set that allighnes perfectly :(

[robpp]

they line up perfect. it must be the pic.

[Hamze]

Yuppy! :) ... Waiting 4 more pics plz !! i like the details in your work ! :)

[B.P.O.D]

looks amazing rob!!!! i have the same heat gun:)

[robpp]

i like it. cools down quick, easy controls. 36 bux homedepot.com

[HEMIBeast]

Nice job rob!! Now install those bad boys and report back to us on all the looks and stares you get with them. ;)

[robpp]

the title should more be called the headlight odessy........

here they are installed and working

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl002.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl001.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl003.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl005.jpg

[Robert Palmer]

Those are badass. :eek:

[HEMIBeast]

Very nice Rob!!!!!! I want to see some night shots now!

[robpp]

sure alf, itll be dark shortly......

I put them on the parking lamp circuit. and I fixed my reg park lights to only be blinkers.

i have them at about 8 volts. i can go to 9.6 but dang they are bright then.

I also want to add a swich so i can turn them off..........

[HEMIBeast]

Yeah I did the same thing with parking lights/blinkers.

Ordering the controller I have wouldn't be a bad idea either. It gives you the abilty to turn them off and some.

[robpp]

how much was that thing? and its a remote that wireless?

[HEMIBeast]

The remote is wireless and the range is 100 ft. The price is 59.99 but can get it a little cheaper by sending them a pm on *** site.

http://www.automotivelightstore.com/12vmultifunctionledremote.aspx

Also Oznuim offers something similiar for 29.99

http://www.oznium.com/12v-remote-dimmer-strobe-switch

[Hamze]

sure alf, itll be dark shortly......

I put them on the parking lamp circuit. and I fixed my reg park lights to only be blinkers.

i have them at about 8 volts. i can go to 9.6 but dang they are bright then.

I also want to add a swich so i can turn them off..........


Hey Rob !!! :thumbsup: Awesome !

How did u have the guts to go with green? :) it turned out nice! definately a head turner :)

at 8 volts, these are more than bright in my opinion ! u dont need to go up to a higher voltage... at 8 volts these leds will have also a much more longer life than 10v.

Congratulations brother :)

[robpp]

thanks brother hamze! my plan is a few other green hints here and there......the gray was getting to be too much :lol:


I have a white set just in case.......they will be for my summer heqadlights!

[Scottina06]

Looks great Rob! Congrats!

[robpp]

thanks Scott.


a few more now that its dark. look at the glow when its only halos.....http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl006.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/hl007.jpg

[Frankie]

Looks AWESOME Rob!!!!!!

Mine have been boxed up and are going to a new home tomorrow!

[Hamze]

Awesome Glow !

As if the garage door pillars are now painted Green!! :D

[robpp]

Frankie most details are here. but let him know to ask if he has issues.

[Scottina06]

You need an HID kit now Rob........

[robpp]

i got to get the fogs done............need to find a band saw.....or get out the dremel.

[HEMIBeast]

That looks fawking swweeeet bro!!!!!

[robpp]

dang they are ****ing bright :lol:

[Chaoul1]

Those look scary! Nice job Rob! It looks perfect and flows with the Jeep!

[iJeep]

Looks awesome Rob.. Nice rims too.. I'd like to see the whole Jeep..

[05quadratrac]

That turned out awesome, I want some now. I'd like the option to change the colors depending on my mood. =D I know the new mustangs have color change interior lighting, color change halo's would be awesome.

[robpp]

they can make them......

[NHWK05]

Wow that looks great. I really wish i had bought a set. Do they still sell them? Link?

[robpp]

headlightsupercenter.com

send an email to steve or wes and check kyle Im not sure.

[NHWK05]

Thanks, Will do.

[Micallef]

bro that looks amazing! i love the green!

i can't wait until mine arrive ill have them installed in no time!

[Scottina06]

there is a member with an 09 and rings. I wonder if these indeed do work with the 08-09 headlamps or he found some that do?

[robpp]

the other vendor that i HATE has them for the late models......

[Scottina06]

ohhhhhh....

[HEMIBeast]

What happened between you and them Rob?

[robpp]

i just really dont like their business practices.

I looked into the CCFL rings a while back. They require a 110 volt power supply. they sold you some very cheap chinese PS that went on fire a lot of the time. then they started the switch to LEDs, at the same time became a vendor on the red site PUSHING CCFLs. When i asked about leds, they tried to push the CCFLs on me. Then they had a GB on red site for like 139, reg 199, but aha, i find them on ebay for 99. I buy those, they have the power supply that goes on fire in that package for 99. so after its a known issue, they continue to dump the bad ones. while the rest of the market was going led, they tried to force Jeepers to use CCFLs.

last point: no matter what site you go to you can find complaints about them: quality, longevity, customer service.

so I washed my hands of them and found Flashtech. they had challenges too. they produced 7 volt and 10 volt rings for us and everyone else. they were tested with 12v running thru the rings no issue. well, if you put a meter on any chrysler car, they have 14.2 running to the lamps when running. FlashTech hired PLCMAN to make the adjustable voltage regulators, cost about 15 bux to produce, and GAVE them to everyone that bought a LED kit from them. YES, GAVE EVERYONE, at their expense, a regulator to make sure there are no problems.

aac says their rings can handle the 14.4, only time will tell.

[White WK Swagga]

Nice Rob. Looke really pro!!!!!

[i0r15]

Beastly looking Rob! Great job!

I'm no fan of that vendor you talk about either......never replied any of my mails, no order confirmation......poor "plug and play" products. Everything has to be redone in order for the CCFL's to work good. But once you figure out how to set it up and get it all installed....it's quite breath taking. Not thanks to them nor their instructions obviously.

Anyway....keep it up man!

[B.P.O.D]

Those are fawking badass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[robpp]

need help:

1. I need to run a wire from the cabin to under the hood. from the hood I didnt see much...... any ideas??? this is for my switch for the halos. pics in a few minutes.

2. how do you take out fog lights. its too cold to spend a lot of time figuring it out. they need to be cut open for their halos too :eek:

[DAVY27]

Rob, to take out the fogs you would need a t20 torx screwdriver. you can probably see the screw from the pic.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn47/GaMeGoLd/006-8.jpg
after that you just have to pop out 2 screws in the back, also w/ t20 and i dont know what you call that, labeled by green arrow, just push them out after. hope it helps!
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn47/GaMeGoLd/011-5-1.jpg

[robpp]

thats what i was looking for dave. thanks bro. +rep.

[robpp]

here is my on/off switch.


I still need help getting a wire to the engine compartment PLEASE

the front
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/rocker1.jpg

the back
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/rocker2.jpg

closer should light up emough to remind me if they are on or off.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn11/robpp/_whistler/rocker3.jpg

[NHWK05]

There are a few grommets on the fire wall that are either high up behind the radio or almost right behind the dash if your looking from the floor up at the fire wall. If going from below the dash you will need to remove some of the sound deadening insulation in most places to get at the fire wall and make a hole or to find the grommets. when i ran my sub power wire i just found a safe spot under the dash and drilled a hole and sealed it with rtv.

[JDubya]

how the F did you get your lights apart without chewing up/cracking parts of the housing? My '09s are being such a PITA i want to smash them lol

[Scottina06]

there is a grommet just above the brake pedal on the firewall

[Hamze]

I've Shaved the rear wiper off my jeep. So, i used the grommet just beside the brake pedal where the old washer fluid hose used to pass :). took out the hose, and ran the switch wire in there.

You can also pass the wires beside the fluid hose if you want.

[robpp]

how the F did you get your lights apart without chewing up/cracking parts of the housing? My '09s are being such a PITA i want to smash them lol

230 degree preheated oven. bake for 14 minutes, the best item i have found, i have opened up 3 sets to date, is very sharp wood chisels. they come small like 3/4 inch to 1.5. they go bigger but thats the biggest i have. anyway, using a wide tool that is sharp so it can break the seal makes it much easier and safer for the black part. you get so much more leverage with a wide chisel. dont go to wide or you want have enough strength to twist it.

i also use the heat gun if its really being stubborn. so oven, then pry, heat gu, pry heat gun, like that.

[JDubya]

yeah I did all that. I've opened several different makes of lights for retrofits and never had so much trouble. This was my second set of HID WK lights. The first set was marginally easier--they were sealed with black silicone. This second set was much worse. They were sealed with some kind HARD plastic that was impervious to heat. Seriously. They were basically plastic-welded together :banghead:

[Scottina06]

the set on my GC now is sealed with a black rubbery substance. But I have some new ones that are like the ones you describe....like clear hard plastic

[robpp]

all of mine were the black rubbery stuff....maybe thats why i have been lucky.

[Scottina06]

I think they changed the late 09 and '10 HID's becasue of leaking/condensation. my first set had a drip on one I had to seal up. I eventually returned it to LKQ for a new one....and it leaked. I sealed it as well.