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iJeep
07-26-2009, 07:58 AM
Other then the plugs, what else do I need to get a full tune-up on my 05 WK?
Thanks :)

Nand12
07-26-2009, 08:25 AM
Air filter, PCV Valve, Inspect/Replace Serpentine Belt, Wipe out throttle body, Change oil, Change both front and rear differential fluid with 75W-140 synthetic (add Mopar friction modifier if you have Quadra-DRIVE II), Change transfer case fluid.

LTrainGC
07-26-2009, 09:05 AM
I am coming up on 60K miles... when I get there, gotta do the following:

- Oil/filter
- F&R diffs
- TC
- Transmission
- Spark plugs
- Inspect ignition cables (replace if necessary)
- PCV valve
- Check belts (replace if necessary)

mjl2610
07-26-2009, 09:33 AM
Does anyone have a picture of where the pcv valve is located and how to service it on an 06 with the 4.7L?

Nand12
07-26-2009, 10:16 AM
Does anyone have a picture of where the pcv valve is located and how to service it on an 06 with the 4.7L?

The PCV valve is located on the oil fill tube (the tube that you fill oil through when you are done changing the oil). It has one hose attached to it that you need to remove (might be a little tight but twisting it back and forth while yanking should get it off). Then turn the valve 90 degrees clockwise (you will be facing the driver's side fender while standing at the passenger side fender so clockwise should be turning towards the front of the vehicle) and pull out. Then follow directions in reverse to put new one in (I got a new one at NAPA for all of $6 vs. the dealer's price of almost $20 and they look identical, so I'd be willing to bet that it's the same manufacturer). I'll take a pic later on and post it up so you can see exactly where the valve is.

mjl2610
07-26-2009, 12:05 PM
Well I was able to check and replace the one on my moms 03 WJ 4.7 HO engine. This motor does infact have the valve located where you said it was. However, on my 06 4.7L there is no valve here on the oil fill tube.

AcidCold
07-26-2009, 02:23 PM
Royal Purple is some very good stuff my man!

scottydog
07-26-2009, 02:58 PM
The 06 4.7 pcv is on the driver's side, towards the firewall.

AcidCold
07-26-2009, 05:57 PM
PVC is on the passenger side right on the oil fill on my 05. can take a picture if need to.

iJeep
07-26-2009, 06:54 PM
^^ Yes, can you?.. Thanks


Royal Purple is the only oil I use BTW..

NHWK05
07-26-2009, 07:33 PM
Wow, this is a wealth of info i was wondering about.

mjl2610
07-26-2009, 11:21 PM
The 06 4.7 pcv is on the driver's side, towards the firewall.
I only have 36,600 miles on the Jeep so i don't think i need to replace it yet. But i was just wondering where it was for future reference. Is it also easily accessible or is it hidden away? Ill try to take a look tomorrow.

Nand12
07-27-2009, 08:24 AM
I only have 36,600 miles on the Jeep so i don't think i need to replace it yet. But i was just wondering where it was for future reference. Is it also easily accessible or is it hidden away? Ill try to take a look tomorrow.

I HIGHLY recommend that you change it because I replaced mine at 33000 miles and it was sticking.

LTrainGC
07-27-2009, 10:25 AM
I HIGHLY recommend that you change it because I replaced mine at 33000 miles and it was sticking.

Dang I've got 56K miles on mine.... maybe I'll replace it this week just for the hell of it.

mjl2610
07-27-2009, 12:37 PM
Well all I could find on the motor was this thing with the light blue collar in the center of the pic, and what i assume a vacuum tube on it. Is this the pcv valve on this motor?
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/Picture146.jpg

Below is a picture of the oil fill tube on the 06, where the pcv is not located.
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/DSCN0665.jpg
http://www.jeepgarage.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/Picture146.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

NHWK05
07-27-2009, 01:00 PM
Does anyone know how hard/Much$ it is to do a fuel filter?

LTrainGC
07-27-2009, 01:07 PM
Does anyone know how hard/Much$ it is to do a fuel filter?

Per wkjeeps.com:

Two fuel filters are used. One is located at the bottom of the fuel pump module, the other is located inside the module. A separate frame mounted fuel filter is not used with any gasoline engine. They do not require normal scheduled maintenance. Filters should only be replaced if a diagnostic procedure indicates to do so.

NHWK05
07-27-2009, 01:23 PM
Sweet, One less thing to do.

AcidCold
07-27-2009, 03:16 PM
I'll get a picture up tonight of the PVC Valve on my 4.7

---------- Post added at 05:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:04 PM ----------

Right were my finger is pointing, that is the PVC valve.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Acidcold/IMG_0793.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Acidcold/IMG_0794.jpg

mjl2610
07-27-2009, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the pic. That is definitely located in that position for 2000-2005 Wj/WK 4.7 and HO engines as i have already replaced it on my mothers WJ. However i am still waiting for a confirmation on the 06 and newer. These current pics will be a good resource for those with the 05 and older motors! On my above post shows the pic of my fill tube, sans the valve.

Scottina06
07-27-2009, 04:00 PM
I would get a pic but I dont have my truck

NHWK05
07-27-2009, 04:03 PM
I would get a pic but I dont have my truck

Now what are you doing to it. LOL :D

Scottina06
07-27-2009, 04:06 PM
nothing.......

mjl2610
07-27-2009, 04:19 PM
^^bs...haha

AcidCold
07-27-2009, 04:34 PM
It's obvious guys! he's doing a lift!!

iJeep
07-27-2009, 04:51 PM
Engine swap..

Scottina06
07-27-2009, 07:49 PM
nothing.....I swear. Now back to Fabs awesome blue WK.....LOL

mjl2610
07-27-2009, 08:07 PM
nothing.....I swear. Now back to Fabs awesome blue WK.....LOL
I am sooooooo sick of you keeping things secret from us, scott... hahah, just kidding.


---------- Post added at 10:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:06 PM ----------

Well all I could find on the motor was this thing with the light blue collar in the center of the pic, and what i assume a vacuum tube on it. Is this the pcv valve on this motor?
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/Picture146.jpg

Below is a picture of the oil fill tube on the 06, where the pcv is not located.
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/DSCN0665.jpg
http://www.jeepgarage.org/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/mjl2610/Picture146.jpg%5B/IMG%5D


Still looking for a confirmation on this... :thumbsup:

Scottina06
07-27-2009, 08:23 PM
I dont think thats it....but it could be....LOL

NHWK05
07-28-2009, 06:20 AM
Warning with the PCV, be very careful removing it. Try and do it while the engine is warm and twist it out gently, it can break off the tube that it plugs in to.

scottydog
07-28-2009, 06:43 AM
:thumbsup:On the 06 4.7 the thing in the back with the blue collar is the pcv. When you buy a new one it has a blue collar. It's not the easiest to get to.

ahamay115
09-03-2009, 01:16 PM
does anyone know about the pcv valve on the 06 5.7? The manual says that it needs replaced at 30,000 miles, but napa, advance, and autozone all say they don't have one for the hemi!! Any confirmation on this or are my local stores just full of s***

Thanks guys!
-Chris

Matt
09-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Wow, awesome thread... thanks guys for all the input thus far.

I just hit 60,000 (well 65,000) and with the help from this thread and wkjeeps I plan to do (remember, I'm 2wd):

- Transmission (fluid = MoparŪ ATF +4, type 9602 /filter = p/n 5015267AC (http://wkjeeps.com/misc/trans_filter_5015267ac.jpg), p/n 4799662 (http://wkjeeps.com/misc/trans_filter_4799662.jpg))
- Spark plugs [Mopar p/n SPRE14MCC4 (Champion 570) (0.045 gap, 16 plugs, tighten to 13 ft. lbs.*)]
- Axles (MoparŪ SAE 75W-140 Synthetic)
- PCV valve (53032531AE)
- Serpentine drive belt (p/n 53013676AC )
- Lubricate brake caliper pins
- Cabin filter
- Power steering fluid (check)
- Inspect ignition cables (replace if necessary)

My oil/filter is on its own schedule (just changed it actually) and I am replacing my brake pads soon.

Questions:

Is there anything than I am missing?

Anything that seems unnecessary?

I hate other people working on my Jeep, is there any of this that I can do myself (aside from the cabin filter and PCV valve)?

Robert Palmer
09-03-2009, 04:35 PM
In the next week or two, I am doing another tune up. Last one I did was at 20k.


Everything is getting changed.


I know I know, its a lease. Well to those..............














STFU. :D :lol:

LO.7
09-03-2009, 04:42 PM
What are you getting done Joe?

I'm thinking about swapping out my spark plugs soon.. I'm almost at 45k.

Robert Palmer
09-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Everything.


Plugs
Tcase, Trans, Diffs, Power Steering, Coolant Flush,
PVC Valve

And anything else it needs.

LO.7
09-03-2009, 04:57 PM
gotcha.. I replaced the transmission, T case, and Front/Rear diffs about 10k ago, so should be good on that front for a while.

Robert Palmer
09-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Yeah you dont drive like me so it should be good. :D :lol:

I usually do this service every 15-20k. Time is up.

LO.7
09-03-2009, 05:06 PM
^^ That is very safe to say. lol

Scottina06
09-03-2009, 07:12 PM
wastin your pops money Joe.........

Robert Palmer
09-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Hey! Watch it Mister. :lol:

ahamay115
09-04-2009, 07:32 AM
anyone know anything about the pcv valve for the hemi? is it a dealer only item?

Thanks!

WSP Jeep
09-04-2009, 07:13 PM
How often do you 4x4 guys change your diff's?

jeepnjeep
09-04-2009, 07:35 PM
How often do you 4x4 guys change your diff's?

Around every 30,000 for me.

iJeep
09-04-2009, 07:36 PM
According with the manufacture, every 33K

JeepGuy026
09-06-2009, 06:19 AM
Im Wondering the Same Where is the PCV On the 5.7 Hemi 2006? Ive never changed it, i did to plugs at 36k, took forever but well worth it i used Champion Iridium i Beleive, and had the whole 4x4 service done at 33k. Runs Excellent. But im not sure where the PCV is and how much it is, cause ill replace it if its to keep my jeep in good working order.

Megatron
09-06-2009, 07:08 AM
I'm at 25k. and my uncle takes care of everything. I don't know much besides what the manual tells me. Can any of you guys enlighten a fellow member?

When and what should I look out for in the next "tune/checkup".

-Thanks

LO.7
09-06-2009, 08:35 AM
I'm at 25k. and my uncle takes care of everything. I don't know much besides what the manual tells me. Can any of you guys enlighten a fellow member?

When and what should I look out for in the next "tune/checkup".

-Thanks

Bookmark this link.. This is the maintenance bible for the WK.

http://wkjeeps.com/wk_maintenance.htm

Matt
10-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Bump.

PCV valve for the 5.7l

I took some pics of the oil filler tube and see a ~3/4" tube connected to it, but it doesn't appear that there is any sort of valve. Does the 5.7l have a PCV valve? NAPA doesn't have one listed on its site.


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/ucf52/IMG_0003-2.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/ucf52/IMG_0001-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/ucf52/IMG_0002-2.jpg

ahamay115
10-09-2009, 08:39 AM
^^^
The shop manual says that it does have a PCV valve and to change it at 30,000 miles, but I have yet to find any parts store that has one...haven't gotten around to calling the dealership, but I'm at a loss for it. Anyone else have any info? I would really appreciate it also!!!

Matt
10-09-2009, 09:14 AM
^^^
The shop manual says that it does have a PCV valve and to change it at 30,000 miles, but I have yet to find any parts store that has one...haven't gotten around to calling the dealership, but I'm at a loss for it. Anyone else have any info? I would really appreciate it also!!!

Yeah, it's definitely in the manual.

Does it have to be located right at the oil filling tube or could it be further down that hose connected to it...?

kevin06vino
10-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Found this (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/general-discussion/31679-pcv-valve-maintanence-worth-expensive-replacement-2.html#post603352) from the 300C board. OE Part number for the 05-06 WK is 53032531AE

Matt
10-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Found this (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/general-discussion/31679-pcv-valve-maintanence-worth-expensive-replacement-2.html#post603352) from the 300C board. OE Part number for the 05-06 WK is 53032531AE

Yeah, I just got back from the dealership (trying to get my maintenance records printed) and asked them where it was, lol. But yeah, I can confirm that that is the PCV valve.

Thanks for the leg work Kevin!

kevin06vino
10-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the leg work Kevin!

Anytime, I swear I've surfed almost all of these interwebz. Definitely passes time when I should be working :D

Matt
10-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Can anyone confirm that the SRT8 and 5.7l HEMI both use the same axles (for maintenance purposes)...?

http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_axle_tcase_maintenance.htm

Matt
10-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Anytime, I swear I've surfed almost all of these interwebz. Definitely passes time when I should be working :D

haha, nice! Check out the above question then :D :p

kevin06vino
10-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Can anyone confirm that the SRT8 and 5.7l HEMI both use the same axles (for maintenance purposes)...?

http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_axle_tcase_maintenance.htm

Looks like the front are the same, C200F or C200FE (w/ELSD)

The rears are different C213R or C213RE vs. D44, but fluid change procedures are the same. Same fluid too, just no limited slip additive in the SRT8

http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_maintenance.htm#FAXLE

Matt
10-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Looks like the front are the same, C200F or C200FE (w/ELSD)

The rears are different C213R or C213RE vs. D44, but fluid change procedures are the same. Same fluid too, just no limited slip additive in the SRT8

http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_maintenance.htm#FAXLE

Awesome Kevin, thanks for the clarification! And yeah, I just wanted to be sure the procedures were the same, thanks again! +rep

Matt
10-09-2009, 12:30 PM
Has anyone changed their transmission fluid and both filters? What was the difficulty?

Here is my maintenance to-do list (over the next month);

To be performed by dealer/shop

- Transmission (fluid = MoparŪ ATF +4, type 9602 /filter = p/n 5015267AC (http://wkjeeps.com/misc/trans_filter_5015267ac.jpg), p/n 4799662 (http://wkjeeps.com/misc/trans_filter_4799662.jpg))

To be performed myself

- Axles (MoparŪ SAE 75W-140 Synthetic)
- Serpentine drive belt (p/n 53013676AC )
- Spark plugs [Mopar p/n SPRE14MCC4 (Champion 570) (0.045 gap, 16 plugs, tighten to 13 ft. lbs.*)]
- Front and rear brake pads
- Lubricate brake caliper pins
- PCV valve (53032531AE)
- 180 degree thermostat
- Cabin filter
- Check power steering fluid
- Check brake fluid

nick_moparman
01-20-2010, 08:34 AM
my 06 limited is in getting a tune up today. i cannot believe how much the bill is, insane.

Matt
01-20-2010, 08:37 AM
my 06 limited is in getting a tune up today. i cannot believe how much the bill is, insane.

How much?

And can you list everything they are doing?

Thanks!

SinRG
02-04-2010, 12:05 AM
Just wondering...

I didn't notice any info on this thread for replacing the PCV valve on an 05 with the 5.7L engine. Is this something relatively simple that could be done easily? Should the oil be drained first? Is the part inexpensive? Paying the dealership ridiculous amounts of money for service is anathema to me, especially since I know these regular maintenance jobs are simple in principle.

Problem is...I don't have a wide array of tools, or a garage, or a level surface to work on, or any experience aside from simple oil changes. So, I probably put off some maintenance longer than I should.

I recently had my tranny fluid checked and I was told I'm not in need of a change but I have no idea when (or if) the filters were replaced and I'm getting some miles on my Jeep. I recently had the diffs and xfer case done (stupid expensive at the dealer but I didn't really trust anyone else to do it right) so I'm not too worried about that. Serp belt looks good. Thanks for the help...

Frankie
02-04-2010, 04:11 AM
When I had my PCV replaced at the dealership, it was ...

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3880/pcvq.jpg

Matt
02-04-2010, 04:30 AM
I paid $27 bucks for my PCV valve from Moparpartsamerica and installed it myself... if you can unscrew the oil filler cap you install the PCV valve. It's the exact same motion. Twist left to remove, twist right to install.

Robert Palmer
02-04-2010, 04:45 AM
I would love to have my own garage to do the work like you guys. Seriously.

I'm jealous.

Frankie
02-04-2010, 04:50 AM
I would love to have my own garage to do the work like you guys. Seriously.

I'm jealous.

You dont have the storage anymore?

Robert Palmer
02-04-2010, 04:54 AM
I have the storage but you're not allowed to do mechanical work there. Same thing with my parking garage.

Matt
02-04-2010, 05:33 AM
What about Marios shop??

Robert Palmer
02-04-2010, 05:39 AM
What about Marios shop??

Eh, thats a detail shop. Plus I dont want to intrude ya know.


One of these days we will move out of the city. I want to move next to Englishtown. :D

Matt
02-04-2010, 05:48 AM
Eh, thats a detail shop. Plus I dont want to intrude ya know.

Yeah, true.

One of these days we will move out of the city. I want to move next to Englishtown. :D

:lol::lol:

dmsfun
02-21-2010, 08:59 AM
^^ Yes, can you?.. Thanks


Royal Purple is the only oil I use BTW..

Same here; noticed the improvement over Castrol full syn right away. RUns better and better mpg.

dmsfun
02-21-2010, 09:28 AM
Im Wondering the Same Where is the PCV On the 5.7 Hemi 2006? Ive never changed it, i did to plugs at 36k, took forever but well worth it i used Champion Iridium i Beleive, and had the whole 4x4 service done at 33k. Runs Excellent. But im not sure where the PCV is and how much it is, cause ill replace it if its to keep my jeep in good working order.


SHould only use the OEM copper plugs in the Hemi with MDS; the iridiums may work for a liltle while, but when it sarts running bad, that will be the reason just so you are aware.

dmsfun
02-21-2010, 10:27 AM
OK so I'm also looking for a new Hemi PCV valve and if it is a special design, unlike the cheap simple designs in all my other cars; this must explain why only Mopar carries it, as all the parts stores I called do not list it.

Matt
02-22-2010, 05:59 AM
OK so I'm also looking for a new Hemi PCV valve and if it is a special design, unlike the cheap simple designs in all my other cars; this must explain why only Mopar carries it, as all the parts stores I called do not list it.

I ordered mine from Mopar Parts America. ~$20 bucks.

dmsfun
02-22-2010, 01:23 PM
OK, found $28 bucks online for the 5.7 PCV, but costs $10 for shipping; dealer charges $42, and is 1 mile from my house. BTW, the service interval is 60k on the PCV, and 30k for under severe conditions, so mines at 50k and all still runs perfectly.

Matt
02-22-2010, 01:31 PM
Take it out and shake it... if you here a rattle, put it back in and keep driving, it's fine.

dmsfun
02-22-2010, 01:35 PM
$34 for the EXACT same part # for the pcv at the Chrysler dealer down the street from the Jeep dealer; whats up with that ?

Matt
02-22-2010, 01:42 PM
$34 for the EXACT same part # for the pcv at the Chrysler dealer down the street from the Jeep dealer; whats up with that ?

Price disparity from two different dealerships... that surprises you?

SvenskaJeepGuy
02-22-2010, 08:39 PM
When I had my PCV replaced at the dealership, it was ...

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3880/pcvq.jpg
ouch, i replaced mine today for $5.20 it took about 90 seconds to take the old one out and put the new one in lol

LTrainGC
02-22-2010, 08:45 PM
ouch, i replaced mine today for $5.20 it took about 90 seconds to take the old one out and put the new one in lol

Where did you find a PCV valve for $5?

SvenskaJeepGuy
02-22-2010, 08:56 PM
a local parts store near me, cee kay auto. they are amazing for cheap car parts. its not mopar, its fram but it was exactly like the factory one i took off it.

dmsfun
02-23-2010, 08:47 PM
THe hemi one is a much larger chrysler only dealer part and totally different animal; not a cheapo little kmart unit like the 4.7 uses.

SvenskaJeepGuy
02-23-2010, 09:54 PM
THe hemi one is a much larger chrysler only dealer part and totally different animal; not a cheapo little kmart unit like the 4.7 uses.
its not a dealer only part, a simple google search will show it is available on hundreds of parts websites.

maxst2
02-26-2010, 02:08 PM
Where you all get royal purple at? I have a 06 wk with 4.7L looking to do the xfer case and diffs myself among the other 60k mile maintenance items. With that which selections do i need to use... for diff and xfer case?

That and i noticed that there isn't anything on oxygen sensors in maintenance? Like I haven't seen any routine maintenance to replace them ( I have yet to look into the giant service manual for them... but kinda surprised the WKjeeps doesn't have it listed...or i couldn't find it. lol

Chaoul1
02-26-2010, 02:12 PM
I get Royal Purple at Advance Auto Parts for Engine Oil. But I didn't like it do I went back with Mobile 1 Extended Performance.

For the Differential get 75W-140(For the Differential) and make check if you have a Limited Slip. Royal Purple already has Additive in it so you can just put it in.

maxst2
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
So what if i used royal purple with the additive and it wasn't LSD?

SilverLimited
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Unless I missed it on this long thread, did somebody describe exactly where the PCV valve is located on the 5.7L GC ? Picture if available appreciated.

thanks

Matt
02-26-2010, 06:27 PM
Unless I missed it on this long thread, did somebody describe exactly where the PCV valve is located on the 5.7L GC ? Picture if available appreciated.

thanks

If you look at you're looking at the motor, it's on the left, back. It has a twist off top (with thumb/finger kind of tab).

brent
02-27-2010, 10:16 AM
Ya, right toward the back-left of your engine cover.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/ibanezbrent/pcv.jpg

kevin06vino
02-28-2010, 04:46 AM
Unless I missed it on this long thread, did somebody describe exactly where the PCV valve is located on the 5.7L GC ? Picture if available appreciated.

thanks


It's on the passenger side of the intake manifold. It's in a canister near the firewall. Here's a little clearer image. It's No. 3, you'll have to twist it counter clockwise while pulling up. Mine was stuck in there pretty good.

https://w05.dealerconnect.chrysler.com/service/mds2002/serviceInfo/en_US/9491.jpg
Once out it looks like this

https://w05.dealerconnect.chrysler.com/service/mds2002/serviceInfo/en_US/9493.jpg

SilverLimited
02-28-2010, 05:43 PM
thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

lo lo
11-09-2010, 06:28 PM
Me too.. Thanks Kevin06vino!