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pkang21
08-06-2009, 11:38 AM
i want it to be a bit of the white color but still have the farthest light output? ?
i hear 4.3k to 5k for lows? i m thinking of 3k for fogs.
what do you guys think.
as soon as i get some opinions, i order it from Tony.

White WK Swagga
08-06-2009, 11:40 AM
I'd go 4300k-5k the most for lows. Get matching bulbs for the fogs and a spare set of 3k to swap out the fogs.
3k fogs = :ftmfw:

LO.7
08-06-2009, 11:45 AM
I'd go 4300k-5k the most for lows. Get matching bulbs for the fogs and a spare set of 3k to swap out the fogs.
3k fogs = :ftmfw:

Agreed.. 4300-5k will give you the best light output. I do like my 6k's though.

pkang21
08-06-2009, 12:24 PM
will the 4.3-5k be white?

B.P.O.D
08-06-2009, 12:30 PM
yes 6k have a slight blue to them. i have 6k fogs and lows but will be getting 3k bulbs for the fogs!

pkang21
08-06-2009, 12:33 PM
what you guys think about 6k lows and 3k fogs?

LO.7
08-06-2009, 12:34 PM
what you guys think about 6k lows and 3k fogs?

That's what I have. But if you want more visibility go with a 4-5k bulb for your low beams.

White WK Swagga
08-06-2009, 12:41 PM
there My (what I was told) 5k lows have a slight blue/violet tint to them. but on the ground it looks awesome. Mine are much brighter than my GF lexus IS250 oem stock xenon hid's.

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And plus you have projectors so it's going to look sofa-king sick with hid's bro... You're going to be like OMG!!!

B.P.O.D
08-06-2009, 01:00 PM
yeah 6k lows and 3k fogs is the best setup IMO

pkang21
08-06-2009, 01:09 PM
aiight 6k 3k it is then.

White WK Swagga
08-06-2009, 01:28 PM
The projectors are going to look crazy with the HID's. Good luck with them bro!!! And please don't hesitate to ask Irf about the grounds. LOL

Scottina06
08-06-2009, 01:44 PM
there My (what I was told) 5k lows have a slight blue/violet tint to them. but on the ground it looks awesome. Mine are much brighter than my GF lexus IS250 oem stock xenon hid's.

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And plus you have projectors so it's going to look sofa-king sick with hid's bro... You're going to be like OMG!!!


sorry bro.....4300K is the brightest, best light output you can get in an HID bulb. Anything above that you lose usable light output to the color. So if you have 6000k's and she has the oem 4300k...hers are the brightest. Yours just "seem" brighter because you have HID aftermarket bulbs in a non-projector oem lamp. Therefore your lamps are scattering the light all over GOD's creation and blinding oncoming drivers and making them seem brighter to the eye when infact they are putting out less light. LOL:thumbsup:

mon_21
08-06-2009, 08:52 PM
id say go with the 3k fogs and 5k lows.... I just find it weird to have two different hues of colors if you go 6k on the lows n 3k on fogs. just imagine blue n yellow infront of u while driving.

LTrainGC
08-06-2009, 09:13 PM
sorry bro.....4300K is the brightest, best light output you can get in an HID bulb. Anything above that you lose usable light output to the color. So if you have 6000k's and she has the oem 4300k...hers are the brightest. Yours just "seem" brighter because you have HID aftermarket bulbs in a non-projector oem lamp. Therefore your lamps are scattering the light all over GOD's creation and blinding oncoming drivers and making them seem brighter to the eye when infact they are putting out less light. LOL:thumbsup:

Agreed... 4300K is brightest in terms of lumens. The higher in K you go, the lower lumens. I saw some jacked up Ram tonight driving home that probably had 12K or 15K HID's in his fogs... they were PURPLE.

White Chocolate
08-06-2009, 10:53 PM
how do you plan on putting the hids in with the day time running lights...how do you get them to work without the flicker? us canadians have that problem

pkang21
08-07-2009, 12:45 AM
whaa?? what do u mean us canadians.. they all have DRL.. atleast the newer ones..??
because mine is a american car too. like bought it from the states...

White Chocolate
08-07-2009, 07:20 AM
whaa?? what do u mean us canadians.. they all have DRL.. atleast the newer ones..??
because mine is a american car too. like bought it from the states...

Exactly, all canadian vehicles are required to run DRL, when you put the HID kit in, the kit will flicker due to the DRL. So how are you planning on making this work? I'm curious as I want to get a HID also, but don't want the hastle of spending to much time trying to make them work.

White WK Swagga
08-07-2009, 08:06 AM
sorry bro.....4300K is the brightest, best light output you can get in an HID bulb. Anything above that you lose usable light output to the color. So if you have 6000k's and she has the oem 4300k...hers are the brightest. Yours just "seem" brighter because you have HID aftermarket bulbs in a non-projector oem lamp. Therefore your lamps are scattering the light all over GOD's creation and blinding oncoming drivers and making them seem brighter to the eye when infact they are putting out less light. LOL:thumbsup:

Agreed... 4300K is brightest in terms of lumens. The higher in K you go, the lower lumens. I saw some jacked up Ram tonight driving home that probably had 12K or 15K HID's in his fogs... they were PURPLE.

Yes in tecnical terms 4300k is brighter. We all know the projectors only project the light where it needs to be. My GF IS250 projects light out further but on the ground in the first 60-100 feet or so mine are brighter. I really don't think mine are that blinding. So far I haven't been flashed. I do agree it throws light all over. Even when Irf, Fabs, Joe, Mario and I met up. When we were in the mall parking lot and we all had our lights on looking at Fabs new projectors. Fabs and My gf IS projected light out further just Joe and Irf's trucks lit up the ground more.

LTrainGC
08-07-2009, 08:16 AM
Yes in tecnical terms 4300k is brighter. We all know the projectors only project the light where it needs to be. My GF IS250 projects light out further but on the ground in the first 60 feet or so mine are brighter. I really don't think mine are that blinding. So far I haven't been flashed. I do agree it throws light all over. Even when Irf, Fabs, Joe, Mario and I met up. When we were in the mall parking lot and we all had our lights on looking at Fabs new projectors. Fabs and My gf IS projected light out further just Joe and Irf's trucks lit up the ground more.

Headlights are intended to light up the road well in front of you, not 60 feet.

60 miles per hour = 88 feet per second, so even just traveling 30 mph you are going to cover that 60 feet in just over one second. I'd rather see farther down the road than right in front of me. Average human reaction time is .215 seconds, so traveling at 60 MPH before you even react you have traveled almost 20 feet.

B.P.O.D
08-07-2009, 08:18 AM
its not that they dont go far... they go a little further than your reg lights without hids and they are just 100x brighter! if you are on a dark road and no one else is on the road, you can turn on your high beams!

LTrainGC
08-07-2009, 08:21 AM
I'll follow up my post by saying that I have HID in the stock housings, and its tons better than the stock halogens but I'd love to get some projectors.

B.P.O.D
08-07-2009, 08:29 AM
^^^ yes they are much better than halogens... my only issue with the projectors is how they arent as wide...

Scottina06
08-07-2009, 08:36 AM
they arent as wide because of the light scatter. I never realized this till my wife followed me one night in my Jeep before i got projectors. I could absolutely see nothing in my rearview mirrors. So we did some tests......and it was the same with her traveling in my direction im my Jeep. The HID lights in the halogen lenses are aweful. Just becasue no one hasnt flashed you doesnt mean oncoming drivers havent been blinded. I didnt get flashed hardly at all either. But if your honest and watch the opposing drivers coming at you....you will see you HID's lighting up the interior of their cars and them struggling to see. Just being honest....and this is coming from someone who had HID's in regular housings.

White WK Swagga
08-07-2009, 08:44 AM
Headlights are intended to light up the road well in front of you, not 60 feet.

60 miles per hour = 88 feet per second, so even just traveling 30 mph you are going to cover that 60 feet in just over one second. I'd rather see farther down the road than right in front of me. Average human reaction time is .215 seconds, so traveling at 60 MPH before you even react you have traveled almost 20 feet.

Who wouldn't. It depends on the conditions of the road. Jeep put the stock halogen bulbs and that was ok by dot standards. The aftermarked hid's are a hell of a lot better than the stock halogen's so it can't be as bad as some are saying. I'm not trying to take credit away from projectors or anything. Just both have their benifits...

Megatron
08-07-2009, 08:46 AM
I need to upgrade my glasses before I decide which ones I want.. haha

White WK Swagga
08-07-2009, 09:00 AM
I have had an 04 X5, 08 IS250 with OEM projectors, and 03 Maxima, and 06 altima with OEM HID reflectors. All were great on the road. The aftermarket HID's for my jeep IMO are brighter than the IS, Maxima, and Altima. Irf and I have been in a parking lot with a jeep with projector HID's, aftermarket HID's, and my GF IS with oem HID. Like everyone said the light is controled better and projects further. But the jeeps with the aftermarket hid's lit up the lot ground. My X5 had hid lighs that was the same bulb as the lows. I believe there was a mechanist that opened for the light to project up. IMO the X5 was the best.

KITSOS
08-07-2009, 01:02 PM
I have stock lights now, waiting on my 5k lows and 3k fogs.
I have 6k's on both my lows and fogs on my passat, looks great, great output.
Had 8k's w/ 3k fogs on my WRX and the 8k's were blue/borderline purple.

stick with the 5k/3k setup

pkang21
08-08-2009, 01:39 AM
so scott, they scatter? i noticed with the projectors, they have a cut off line thats visibile when i m driving like a flash light when u put on a ground.?
maybe wrong thing i m talking about .

mon_21
08-08-2009, 04:44 AM
perfectly understood what u are trying to say Paul, thats why projectors are better than stock because they put the light were its supposed to be... the cut off tells you were your light ends so u can aim it accordingly. Unike the stock ones wherein you try to look for the hot spot to aim it correctly and hope that you adjusted it properly so as to not get flashed.