Turbo Systems for non Hemi Jeeps

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

Just wanted to let everyone know, that while we do a lot of work on the Hemi engines, we are fully capable of designing or modifying a system for the non Hemi Jeeps as well.

The 4.7 for example, should be a piece of cake, as it would only take some minor modification to the current 5.7 Cherokee system.

So if you have been looking for a system, and can't find one, give us a call, we would be happy to discuss your project with you.

[Cyanide]

Tim, any guesstimates on what kind of power increases an old Magnum 5.9L would see over the stock 245 hp/345 tq with one of your set ups? Thanks...

:thumbsup:

[jeeppro]

how much

[robpp]

hey tim, on the 4.7 I know tunimg would be necessary. currently there is no real tuning options except writing to the PCM directly or like a SuperChips which I dont think we can load custom with.

is there some viable option. I ask as i live at 5300 ft above sea level i may need some thing diff than a person at sea level.

[BUBBADOG]

Tim, any guesstimates on what kind of power increases an old Magnum 5.9L would see over the stock 245 hp/345 tq with one of your set ups? Thanks...

:thumbsup:I been asking him on price for the 5.9 for a month now he never answers me lol...

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

I been asking him on price for the 5.9 for a month now he never answers me lol...

Oh I am bad, how did I miss that question??? Was it a PM or post???

Price depends on exactly what is involved. Whether it would simply be some modification to a current set up, or a completely new setup.

On the 4.7, I suspect I can simply modify the current 5.7 setup. If anyone has underchassis pics, I could tell pretty quick what would be involved.

A 4.7 system would be no more than the current 5.7 system. I would make the changes on the initial system at no charge and do the install at no charge for the first one.

On a 5.9, I would need to look at a vehicle as I know the undercarriage is different. That would determine if a new or modified system then I could quote a price.

I normally do a prototype system for a grand less than the retail price would be, and throw in the install free as well.

Tuning on the 4.7 should not be an issue using the iEMS3 as there is no need to write to the ECU.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

hey tim, on the 4.7 I know tunimg would be necessary. currently there is no real tuning options except writing to the PCM directly or like a SuperChips which I dont think we can load custom with.

is there some viable option. I ask as i live at 5300 ft above sea level i may need some thing diff than a person at sea level.

What do you mean writing to the PCM directly, are you speaking of CMR (Diablo) or something else?

Superchips can only be used for the canned options such as tire size, tranny settings, etc.

[HEMIBeast]

What kind of power can be expected to be made on the 5.7?

[FlyinRyan]

I am doing research on doing a remote-mount kit on a 4.7 WJ. I have 3" exhaust piping already in place. Thinking of running something along the lines of a T60-1. I run this truck on the street, strip, and even the dunes. SCT will be controlling it all.

I don't know if it'd be worth it to get the piping for your kit, but the oiling system and all that stuff would be great.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

I am doing research on doing a remote-mount kit on a 4.7 WJ. I have 3" exhaust piping already in place. Thinking of running something along the lines of a T60-1. I run this truck on the street, strip, and even the dunes. SCT will be controlling it all.

I don't know if it'd be worth it to get the piping for your kit, but the oiling system and all that stuff would be great.

You will regret a 60-1, get a T66, T67 or T-70. A T60-1 will experience boost fall off in the upper rpms.

Have you checked into info on ECU rewrite tunes and turbo's? Whether Diablo or SCT, you will still wind up with no fuel correction in part throttle boost, and it is very difficult to make the ECU play nice with the variable boost profile on a turbo.

We can hook you up with whatever you need, the 5.7 kit should be a snap to modify for a 4.7 on a WK, not so sure on the WJ though. Our oiling system components are second to none, and we make sure your system is completely evacuated of oil on shutdown so there is no possibly of overflow from the turbo center section. Our control system keeps the pump in operation for one minute after shutdown and then auto shuts off.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

What kind of power can be expected to be made on the 5.7?

We will find out before too much longer. Right now the calculations indicate we are around 500 crank HP on 6 psi. My 0-60 time went from right at 7 seconds to 4.76 seconds.

[HEMIBeast]

Wow that sounds very impressive. I can't wait to hear final results. You can expect a call from me very soon! Sending a pm your way...

[HEMIBeast]

We will find out before too much longer. Right now the calculations indicate we are around 500 crank HP on 6 psi. My 0-60 time went from right at 7 seconds to 4.76 seconds.

Are those #s on a stock 5.7?

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

Are those #s on a stock 5.7?

Yes, bone stock except the turbo and iEMS3 for tuning. Nothing taken out of the Jeep, running 1/4 tank of fuel.

[FlyinRyan]

Tim,

PM incoming....

You will regret a 60-1, get a T66, T67 or T-70. A T60-1 will experience boost fall off in the upper rpms.

Have you checked into info on ECU rewrite tunes and turbo's? Whether Diablo or SCT, you will still wind up with no fuel correction in part throttle boost, and it is very difficult to make the ECU play nice with the variable boost profile on a turbo.

We can hook you up with whatever you need, the 5.7 kit should be a snap to modify for a 4.7 on a WK, not so sure on the WJ though. Our oiling system components are second to none, and we make sure your system is completely evacuated of oil on shutdown so there is no possibly of overflow from the turbo center section. Our control system keeps the pump in operation for one minute after shutdown and then auto shuts off.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

What kind of power can be expected to be made on the 5.7?

Made these passes this weekend at the Monster Mopar event in St. Louis.

13.92 @ 100.52

13.90 @ 101.92

13.84 @ 102.51

All 0-60ft times were in the 2.22 to 2.23 seconds. The torque management on the 5.7 Cherokee is nasty for the track, it will not allow full torque till 45 mph and then it is if you throw a nitrous switch. Really hurts the ET's and MPH. I have to get that turned off!

[Scottina06]

0-60 in 2.2...you should be is the 11's in the 1/4

[Matt]

0-60 in 2.2...you should be is the 11's in the 1/4

0-60 feet...?

[FlyinRyan]

I believe what Tim meant is his 60' times. I really doubt he's running 2.2 sec 0-60mph times, and talking about torque management in the same sentence.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

I believe what Tim meant is his 60' times. I really doubt he's running 2.2 sec 0-60mph times, and talking about torque management in the same sentence.

Sorry, yeah, ft times not mph times, I think you would pass put with a 0-60 mph of 2.2 seconds, at least I would !

[Scottina06]

sorry..........

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

sorry..........

For what, its a valid comment, I should have put the "ft" in there, no reason to be sorry in my book!

[Scottina06]

ohhhh....I went back to look and the "ft" was there.....any way....no biggie. I got excited and was gonna load the WK and my AMEX and head your way....LOL.(I wish)

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

ohhhh....I went back to look and the "ft" was there.....any way....no biggie. I got excited and was gonna load the WK and my AMEX and head your way....LOL.(I wish)

Yeah, after I edited it and added the "ft", it was not there at first! :thumbsup:

[HEMIBeast]

We will find out before too much longer. Right now the calculations indicate we are around 500 crank HP on 6 psi. My 0-60 time went from right at 7 seconds to 4.76 seconds.



Tim what's it making for torque? That is the real #.

[Tim@NCTSLLC]

Tim what's it making for torque? That is the real #.

Won't know till I can get time to get to an AWD dyno. Just so busy at the shop, no time to get to one right at this moment. My best guess based on previous 5.7 turbo numbers would be 450 to 500 crank HP and 525 to 600 crank torque at the current boost levels.

My 300C was 411 RWHP and 500 RWTQ on a smaller turbo.

[Matt]

What's the drivetrain loss on an AWD vs. RWD...? 15%?

Someone pay for one for me :D