Fogs Installation

[DAVY27]

Not too good with electrical and lightning and need some help! Lookin to install fog lights on my laredo. i see the fog kit from J4J, which includes the lights and the dash-mount switch. the thing is it requires Starscan to get it workin. Called up the dealership to see how much that would run me and they said $150 :eek: just for Starscan. Is there anyway to use the kit without starscan? maybe aftermarket fogs? Have any1 done this? appreciate ne kind of help:thumbsup:

[Scottina06]

damn...the install is gravy and directions are included with the kit....but $150 to activate them. it takes 30 seconds!!! My dealer did it for FREE!

[05wkguy]

You could use an aftermarket switch and relay wired into the factory fogs. I'd try and find another dealer first.

[B.P.O.D]

bro i would call around a few dealerships to see what they say about the starscan. it does literally take 30 secs. do you need an oil change? get one and say hey my fogs aren't working right can you check them out?

[Megatron]

bro i would call around a few dealerships to see what they say about the starscan. it does literally take 30 secs. do you need an oil change? get one and say hey my fogs aren't working right can you check them out?

That sounds like a good plan. Try westbury jeep and mention the website LOL.

Good luck dave!

[White WK Swagga]

I'd install them and go to the dealer and say "They stopped working" LOL

[Megatron]

I'd install them and go to the dealer and say "They stopped working" LOL

:lol:

[DAVY27]

LOL. you know what? i might just do that lol. gonna turn in my free first oil change next week and see if i can pull it off :D. but gonna be a b*tch if it doesnt work and i purchase the kit.

[Megatron]

Davy, give them a call first and say your fogs wont work. LOL

[Chuck]

I'd install them and go to the dealer and say "They stopped working" LOL

I agree :D

[TimmyB]

Not too good with electrical and lightning and need some help! Lookin to install fog lights on my laredo. i see the fog kit from J4J, which includes the lights and the dash-mount switch. the thing is it requires Starscan to get it workin. Called up the dealership to see how much that would run me and they said $150 :eek: just for Starscan. Is there anyway to use the kit without starscan? maybe aftermarket fogs? Have any1 done this? appreciate ne kind of help:thumbsup:


I bought the same kit from J4J and install was easy. Just need a set or torx drivers. But $150 to activate from that dealer????? thats insane, and you should call them up and complain they are trying to rip you off. When I got mine activated I went down with the starscan instructions in my hand, asking how much then was told half hour labor at like 45 bucks. I rolled my eyes and said whatever but ill never come back here with those prices for the actual work done. When my car was ready, 10 min later, the guy said he "gave me a break", bill was for 20 bucks. So yes, call around and let them know that you know it only takes 5 min to actually activate.

[DAVY27]

I bought the same kit from J4J and install was easy. Just need a set or torx drivers. But $150 to activate from that dealer????? thats insane, and you should call them up and complain they are trying to rip you off. When I got mine activated I went down with the starscan instructions in my hand, asking how much then was told half hour labor at like 45 bucks. I rolled my eyes and said whatever but ill never come back here with those prices for the actual work done. When my car was ready, 10 min later, the guy said he "gave me a break", bill was for 20 bucks. So yes, call around and let them know that you know it only takes 5 min to actually activate.
yea these dam ny dealerships are ridiculous. imma call around and see if i can get it around $50. even $50 is expensive for a minute job.

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after i get this done imma go bak and give em all a stunner! Stone Cold Style!!!

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thanks guys for all the advice

[TimmyB]

Here's a story kinda on base with getting ripped off at shops. When I recently installed my Eibach lowering springs myself I stripped the passenger side lower sway bar bolt and it only went in half way. I waited till monday morning and drove it to a local gas station shop where they helped me out before with a frozen lug nut and charged me 10 bucks to take it off, well worth it. I went there but the guy was busy he said, I asked anyways about the cost and he said about 10-20 bucks. So i drove to the next gas station shop, but when they put it on the lift the hick looking grease monkey kid starts shaking his head saying "man thats bad", When i asked what he was talking about he said I needed a whole new lower control arm, FOR A STRIPPED BOLT!!!. I told him to take it off the lift so i can go somewhere that can simply tap and re-thread the hole, then he said he will try it but no gaurantees. So he did it within 2 min, then charged me $46.50. And thats why I dont take my car anywhere, bunch of rip off artists trying to rip off old ladies or sumthing. Sorry for ranting in this thread, but kinda goes with the whole starscan issue and being ripped off for actual work done.

[B.P.O.D]

^^^ i totally agree with ya!!! always trying to rip off customers!!!

[08Hemi]

Did you ever take care of this Davy? If you do the install perfectly they can't say anything. Tell them you have reset the battery via removal of neg terminal and they still won't work. Hahahaha

[DAVY27]

just ordered it from J4J. gonna try to pull it off when i get my first oil change from dealership.

[saleen032]

How come everyone thinks it is Ok to rip the dealer off? That is what you are doing? They have to pay the techs and the Starscan tools arent cheap either..

[LO.7]

My dealer hooked me up for free w/ the starscan tool to turn on my fogs.

And no I DO NOT feel bad for "ripping" off the dealer Saleen!!!

[Robperez]

Dealers do that to us all the time. I dont care about them. They are in for the money and not for Customer Service.

They are worst than a root canal without anesthesia.

[DAVY27]

How come everyone thinks it is Ok to rip the dealer off? That is what you are doing? They have to pay the techs and the Starscan tools arent cheap either..
i understand but $150 for a 30 sec job is ridiculous. i'm just tryin to get a fair price, afterall i did just buy the jeep from em. I helped them and they should return the favor.

[08Hemi]

Yeah I do not care about the dealers...they did not even know how to enable my drop-down mirrors in reverse...and think about how many THOUSANDS of dollars they have charged for the starscan tool they are using. Also, they already rip us of at $65 an oil change...if it takes two seconds there should be no charge or like a $10 activation fee; not $150.

Is yours a 09 ltd Davy? I love that lower bumper insert!!!

[jeeppro]

so the dealer could install fog on my jeep

[LO.7]

so the dealer could install fog on my jeep

Install them yourself. It's literally a very easy, 1/2 hour job. Take it to the dealer to get starscanned and you're set.

[DAVY27]

Troy, it's best to get the kit from J4J and install it yourself to save some $$. but u do need the dealership to activate it tho.

[jeeppro]

whats j4j

[DAVY27]

justforjeeps.com

[jeeppro]

thanks bro

[jeeppro]

so does it come with a switch and all parts

[DAVY27]

yep, the fog lights and the switch. just remove ur old switch and put in the new one. call up one of the dealers to see how much the activation will cost u. hopefully in Utah it's much cheaper.

[jeeppro]

i dont have a stock switch

[LO.7]

You have a stock switch or you wouldn't be able to turn on your headlights.

[jeeppro]

ok so the fogs go on when the headlights are on

[LO.7]

No, the new switch has an extra setting to turn your fogs on.

You can just use your fogs w/o the lows on.

Your fogs will run with your turn signal lights.

[jeeppro]

whats kind of switch is it ? so have you done this

[LO.7]

Yeah I installed mine a while back.

This switch replaces your stock turn signal switch.. It looks identical but has an extra option for fog lights. Literally takes 2 minutes to switch out.

[jeeppro]

thanks for the info bro

[LO.7]

No prob.. Once you get all of the stuff in hand it will make a lot more sense.

This is one of the easiest mods you can do on your own.. It's all plug and play, aside from the dealership starscan tool.

[jeeppro]

so whats star scan

[LO.7]

A dealership diagnostic scan tool.. They basically plug it into your truck and enter a code to unlock the function of your fog lights.. Mine did it for free, but some charge. Call around first to find out.

[jeeppro]

k thanks

[jeeppro]

what bulbs does the stock fogs take ?

[White Chocolate]

H10

[jeeppro]

hids in h10

[White Chocolate]

ohhhh ya shit!! my bad, check out the sylviana website

Fog/Driving light
9145
9145ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen

[jeeppro]

where lol..

[jeeppro]

is it a hid kit

[XenonDepot]

The stock fogs take an H10 bulb which can also be referenced to as a 9145.

Steve

[Chaoul1]

Davy did you get this done?

[DAVY27]

what bulbs does the stock fogs take ?
yea it h10 for the hids!

[DAVY27]

Davy did you get this done?
Paul, yep got in a done. Found a cheaper dealership that charges $99. Even thought it's expensive IMO, i didnt want to bother playing games with the dealership that charges $160 so i decided to go to the other one.

[DAVY27]

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[Chris]

Hey so since were all talking fogs here, the stock fog option works without the low beams having to be on, but will not work without the driving/parking lights on?

Seems the only way to have the fogs on and ONLY the fogs on is to use an aftermarket kit and switch?

Btw, the fogs look great Dave, how much is the kit from j4j btw?

[DAVY27]

Hey so since were all talking fogs here, the stock fog option works without the low beams having to be on, but will not work without the driving/parking lights on?

Seems the only way to have the fogs on and ONLY the fogs on is to use an aftermarket kit and switch?

Btw, the fogs look great Dave, how much is the kit from j4j btw?

yea an aftermarket switch for ONLY the fogs. i think wit the discount the kit cost $170?

[B.P.O.D]

davy those 5k or 6k fogs?

[DAVY27]

5k fogs Irf.

[jeeppro]

so when i get my fogs is there pre wires for them

[Scottina06]

yes

[jeeppro]

thanks scott

[Megatron]

Hey so since were all talking fogs here, the stock fog option works without the low beams having to be on, but will not work without the driving/parking lights on?

Seems the only way to have the fogs on and ONLY the fogs on is to use an aftermarket kit and switch?



That would be me, I got a custom switch

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/simplykillingit/0805091941.jpg?t=1253755403

And davy, nice fogs brother!:thumbsup:

[jeeppro]

do you have a pic of your switch

[Scottina06]

they will be clipped to the front frame rail. Just unsnap them and plug the bulb in. Then install the relay and interior stalk......then have the dealer activate them with starscan. very easy

[jeeppro]

thanks scott

[Scottina06]

heres the complete install instructions...

http://site.justforjeeps.com/guide/82209354.pdf

[jeeppro]

nice

[DAVY27]

go for it Troy!

[jeeppro]

i em buying them tomorrow

[Megatron]

do you have a pic of your switch

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/simplykillingit/0805091911.jpg

Here ya go. The red bulb is for my alarm so dont mind that. Basically got the OEM fogs for around $50 but my uncle just connected the fuse to the battery and had a separate switch for it. Basically put the wire thru the firewall into the dash. I didnt go to the dealer because I basically didn't want to pay. :o

This is matts pic but the firewall is highlighted

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/simplykillingit/IMG_0341.jpg

Voila. Hope that helps. so basically, you can just drive around with the fogs on without the parking lights on. Preety cool eh? Feel free to ask a question, hopefully I can help.

[B.P.O.D]

5k look good dave!

[DrkSpawn]

I was going to ask a question but now there is no need. You guys have answered all the questions that came to mind about installing fogs on mine. Thanks for providing such good info!

[Megatron]

No problemo.

What are you going with, OEM then off to the dealership?