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QuickOne
05-17-2011, 08:14 AM
I've heard about it, but never figured out how to get it.
Here is some info given to me by my dealer:
You might know about this, but I found a way to get a discount on every new Chrysler Jeep Dodge product, a rebate that you will always qualify for. Check out http://www.treadlightly.org/ (http://www.treadlightly.org/)
If you join Tread Lightly, I think it cost like $25 or something, you can get a control number, and qualify for affiliate pricing on all new CJD models. The Affiliate Price is listed on everyone of my invoices. It is 1% below the listed invoice price. You must be a member of tread lightly for a minimum of 30 days before purchase, and I have to prove that in order to claim the incentive
Seems like a no brainer for $25 for 1% below invoice. :)
jgc4ever
05-17-2011, 08:36 AM
From that link:
The Member Discount That Has Helped Double Our Membership: Ahttp://treadlightly.org/files/page_text/images/t111227552110.jpgll 3-Year Individual Tread Lightly! Members can now receive a discount (1% below factory invoice) on all Jeep®, Dodge, Ram and Chrysler vehicles. This new discount has already helped double our membership. Make a commitment to the great outdoors and join our ranks. Become a 3-Year Member of Tread Lightly! (http://www.treadlightly.org/page.php/members-individual/Individual-Memberships) for $60.
jgc4ever
05-17-2011, 08:39 AM
Here's more:
http://www.treadlightly.org/page.php/chrysler_discount
Exclusive Member Benefit
All Tread Lightly! Individual Members Can Now Receive
a Significant Discount on All Chrysler, Jeep, Ram, and Dodge Vehicles
http://www.treadlightly.org/files/page_text/images/17411266598258.jpg
Chrysler has recently expanded its partnership with Tread Lightly! and has now made the organization part of its Affiliate Rewards program.
Now all Tread Lightly! Individual Members can take advantage of the Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program and drive away with the Preferred Price* (1% below factory invoice) on your next new Chrysler, Jeep® Dodge or Ram Truck purchase or lease. You’ll find that Affiliate Rewards savings– combined with current incentives† – give you a price that’s up to thousands of dollars below MSRP.‡
Here’s how:
1) Become a Member of Tread Lightly! (http://www.treadlightly.org/page.php/members-individual/Individual-Memberships) for $60. Only 3-year Individual Members are eligible.
2) Visit www.chrysleraffiliates.com (http://www.chrysleraffiliates.com/) or call (888) 444-4321 to learn more about the program and to obtain your Control Number. You’ll need the Tread Lightly! Company Code, which you will receive in your Tread Lightly! membership letter upon joining or renewing (The membership letter will be in your membership packet which is mailed out each Friday).
3) Take your Control Number, along with the letter you received in your membership package to any U.S. Chrysler, Jeep or Dodge dealership. You MUST have your Tread Lightly! membership letter in order to receive the discount. If you have lost your letter, please email treadlightly@treadlightly.org (treadlightly@treadlightly.org). to request a replacement.
4) Ask for a copy of the vehicle invoice, and you’ll see the Preferred Price (PP) clearly listed. To see how much you can save, check out this sample pricing (http://www.treadlightly.org/chryslerdiscountpricingsamples.pdf) (prices will vary according to current incentives).
5) Drive away in your new vehicle!
*The Preferred Price is the maximum amount to be charged by a participating U.S. dealer for an eligible vehicle. See dealer for details. A $75 administration fee applies. †Current incentives apply at time of offer. ‡The MSRP is the Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price. MSRP excludes tax. Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge are registered trademarks of Chrysler LLC.
http://www.treadlightly.org/files/page_text/images/17411268076496.jpg
P-Dawger
05-17-2011, 09:07 AM
Seems like a great deal (maybe a little too good)
Will they at some point add the fine print (except for SRT vehicles)?
I know they say all but....
Anyone else joining to get the discount?
nosmoke
05-17-2011, 09:13 AM
Already joined a few months ago in anticipation. I am so freaking excited to get my new SRT WK2.
jgc4ever
05-17-2011, 09:17 AM
I just signed up for $60. It says all Jeep vehicles. Not going to risk them closing off the SRT to future members.
QuickOne
05-17-2011, 09:37 AM
Seems like a great deal (maybe a little too good)
Will they at some point add the fine print (except for SRT vehicles)?
I know they say all but....
Anyone else joining to get the discount?
I would agree, but my dealer told me he'd honor it.
Let me know if you need to talk to a decent dealer and I'll send you his info.
P-Dawger
05-17-2011, 09:45 AM
Thanks guys - I am going to join.
Anyone know if that org is tax deductable?
Schleprock
05-17-2011, 09:50 AM
Seems like a great deal (maybe a little too good)
Will they at some point add the fine print (except for SRT vehicles)?
I know they say all but....
Anyone else joining to get the discount?
Nothing different than the GMS price I get due to my father. Dealer's are NOT required to honor the GMS/Affiliate pricing. They do so at their own choice. Special pricing is generally never honored on new, highly anticipated vehicles or vehicles that are selling at a high demand. Your best chance is at a super high volume dealer, or one that you have had a long relationship with that would like to return the favor to you.
My question is: What does " 3-year Individual Members are eligible" mean?? I take that to mean you must have been an individual (one person enrolled) member of Tread Lightly for 3 years before you can receive the first Affiliate Pricing Vehicle (it would prevent people from doing exactly what is occurring in this thread). in other words, no affiliate pricing for your new SRT8 purchase until 16 May 2014.
jgc4ever
05-17-2011, 10:39 AM
Nothing different than the GMS price I get due to my father. Dealer's are NOT required to honor the GMS/Affiliate pricing. They do so at their own choice. Special pricing is generally never honored on new, highly anticipated vehicles or vehicles that are selling at a high demand. Your best chance is at a super high volume dealer, or one that you have had a long relationship with that would like to return the favor to you.
My question is: What does " 3-year Individual Members are eligible" mean?? I take that to mean you must have been an individual (one person enrolled) member of Tread Lightly for 3 years before you can receive the first Affiliate Pricing Vehicle (it would prevent people from doing exactly what is occurring in this thread). in other words, no affiliate pricing for your new SRT8 purchase until 16 May 2014.
This is incorrect. 3-year Individual means it must be an individual person, not a corporation or LLC, and it means you signed up for the 3-year (or lifetime) membership with tread lightly. The offer is active in 30 days from signing up for the individual 3 or lifetime membership (just follow the directions).
Schleprock
05-17-2011, 10:43 AM
This is incorrect. 3-year Individual means it must be an individual person, not a corporation or LLC, and it means you signed up for the 3-year (or lifetime) membership with tread lightly. The offer is active in 30 days from signing up for the individual 3 or lifetime membership (just follow the directions).
Hmm, OK, that wording to me was difficult to understand. I think I was looking too much for the "lawyer speak" in it.
jgc4ever
05-17-2011, 10:49 AM
It's been used by people on this forum for the new 2011 WK2 and they stated that they just signed up for it and payed and got the control number. Someone even said their dealer didn't make them wait 30 days.
kbench55
05-17-2011, 11:08 AM
Does anyone know if there is something like this available to do for Canadian dealers?
Nouveau Redneck
05-17-2011, 11:15 AM
My wife's employer was a corporate affiliate of Chrysler back in 2008 when we bought her Liberty and my Wrangler Unlimited. All of their employees were eligible for affiliate pricing. We got a combined total of almost $6,000.00 off of the 2 vehicles. Unfortunately, her employers affiliate relationship ended with the Chrysler bankruptcy and it hasn't been re-negotiated since. They still have affiliate relationships with GMC and Ford, but who wants one of those?
QuickOne
05-17-2011, 11:38 AM
Nothing different than the GMS price I get due to my father. Dealer's are NOT required to honor the GMS/Affiliate pricing. They do so at their own choice. Special pricing is generally never honored on new, highly anticipated vehicles or vehicles that are selling at a high demand. Your best chance is at a super high volume dealer, or one that you have had a long relationship with that would like to return the favor to you.
My question is: What does " 3-year Individual Members are eligible" mean?? I take that to mean you must have been an individual (one person enrolled) member of Tread Lightly for 3 years before you can receive the first Affiliate Pricing Vehicle (it would prevent people from doing exactly what is occurring in this thread). in other words, no affiliate pricing for your new SRT8 purchase until 16 May 2014.
My dealer told me you have to be a member for 30 days prior to the purchase. That is all he is required to show for proof.
He also said he will be ordering at least one and will be calling me for the test drive when it arrives. He will only let current SRT owners test drive it! :cool:
mjw930
05-17-2011, 03:13 PM
My dealer told me you have to be a member for 30 days prior to the purchase. That is all he is required to show for proof.
He also said he will be ordering at least one and will be calling me for the test drive when it arrives. He will only let current SRT owners test drive it! :cool:
The dealer isn't really telling the whole story. The control number generated by the affiliate website or a person from Chrysler on the other end of the phone is what your dealer needs in combination with proof of your treadlightly membership to be able to submit the paperwork to Chrysler to get their stipend for doing the deal. Just showing the dealer your membership without the control number doesn't work. IF that's all your dealer is asking for then they are honoring the price but not participating with Chrysler. Why they would do that is beyond me but some do.
I've used affiliate pricing with Ford, GM, Chrysler, Mazda, Volvo and Nissan and the Chrysler program is probably the loosest with regard to dealer participation and corporate enforcement. It's only when you get into employee pricing, executive rewards and one time retiree discounts (up to $25K!) where they get serious.
With affiliate pricing being 1% below invoice price and REQUIRING the dealer to apply ALL factory incentives some dealers appear to be honoring the price when in reality they are not submitting the paperwork and pocketing incentives since they don't have to comply on a "normal" sale.
I'm not saying it happens often but since Chrysler doesn't publish those on the affiliate site like Ford and GM do it becomes the dealers word against yours whether you are getting everything you are entitled to.
Regardless, I love the programs because I never have to haggle over price. I pick the dealership I want to do business with based on customer service and never end up buying from a crappy dealer just because they had the lowest price in the area.
nosmoke
05-17-2011, 04:13 PM
Let me know if you need to talk to a decent dealer and I'll send you his info.
If I can't find one near Philly, I'll definitely be asking you! :D
chucktownsrt8
05-19-2011, 04:38 AM
Sounds like a good deal. I already get this pricing though :D Perks of the pops working for the biz. Some dealers can be pricks though and try and sham you out of it but stick to your guns.
hound
05-19-2011, 05:43 AM
Just doing the quick math here, but doesn't isn't the discounted price pretty close to $500 below invoice like Champion Dodge use to offer?
Schleprock
05-19-2011, 06:46 AM
Just doing the quick math here, but doesn't isn't the discounted price pretty close to $500 below invoice like Champion Dodge use to offer?
in this case, probably close, but it depends on the car. Take whatever you think the invoice price is for said car, move the decimal 2 spots to the left, and that is your discount. If the SRT8's invoice is $46,000....your discount is $460 = $45,540. That discount is not the game changer for me. The game changer for me is that it is non-negotiable if accepted. You don't' have to haggle back and forth to beat them down to an agreed upon price below MSRP. You automatically skip that and "discount" down to invoice plus the 1%. I'm happy with invoice minus rebates. I already know going in when I buy a car what the price is, if I am not willing to pay that, then I won't even think about purchasing.
have contacted 3 dealers. None have responded with a willingness to orderor talk further (blows my mind), I said I would not pay over MSRP but the zest to get a sale still wasn't there even before that. They absolutely denied Affiliate pricing. I wonder if the owners of these dealerships know their sales staff is acting like this? I'm essentially a "lay down" buyer. It doesn't get any easier than that! I might give it a couple more tries, and then Jeep will simply lose a sale for now. I'm not a "gotta have it" person and when things get to a ridiculous level to obtain I say screw it and move on.
QuickOne
05-19-2011, 11:35 AM
My dealer has confirmed the affiliate pricing. One order has been placed. :)
And isnt affiliate pricing off of invoice, meaning dealer invoice?
transam
05-19-2011, 03:18 PM
My dealer has confirmed the affiliate pricing. One order has been placed. :)
And isnt affiliate pricing off of invoice, meaning dealer invoice?
Orders can't be placed yet, just deposits!
jgc4ever
05-19-2011, 04:44 PM
"1% below factory invoice on all Jeep® vehicles."
QuickOne
05-19-2011, 05:02 PM
This is sweet!
So...Dealer invoice has to be around 48K with all the options.
That's a lot of truck for under 50K!
jgc4ever
05-19-2011, 05:21 PM
$48k if that is what it would be, is still a lot of money.
QuickOne
05-19-2011, 05:45 PM
$48k if that is what it would be, is still a lot of money.
Compared to what? X5? Range Rover SuperCharged Sport?
Hell, A mustang GT cost 40K!
jgc4ever
05-19-2011, 06:14 PM
Compared to a new 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. And really a steep price compared to my WK that's already paid for and looks and accelarates plenty good for the streets I drive and it's already paid for. :)
Also, I would never even consider a Mustang, yuck.
QuickOne
05-19-2011, 06:35 PM
JGC....
Compared to an Overland fully loaded?
Hmmm:
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48K is not a lot more by any stretch of the imagination. But your WK...Come on. We're not comparing used are you?
Schleprock
05-19-2011, 06:36 PM
This is sweet!
So...Dealer invoice has to be around 48K with all the options.
That's a lot of truck for under 50K!
as stated, it's factory, not dealer.
jgc4ever
05-19-2011, 07:28 PM
JGC....
Compared to an Overland fully loaded?
Hmmm:
http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dda/inventory.jsp?sort_type=priceDESC&dealership_view_name=null&dealer_id=52093663&resultCar=277690681&address=
48K is not a lot more by any stretch of the imagination. But your WK...Come on. We're not comparing used are you?
Kind of for me. I have 57k miles, new car looking leather and carpets and new car shining paint. Zero scratches or door dings and it's fun to drive.
$42,000 sales prices for loaded Overlands is a decent price difference than $48,000. Don't get me wrong, as I currently feel about the SRT8 I will find a way. Just hoping I can get a loaded WK2 SRT 8 for closer to $46,000 with affiliate pricing. I know it's only a couple of thousand dollars, but I happen to think that's significant when you're stretching your dollars to purchase a new vehicle like this.
transam
05-20-2011, 03:12 AM
as stated, it's factory, not dealer.
What's the difference? Is one lower than the other?
Schleprock
05-20-2011, 05:49 AM
Kind of for me. I have 57k miles, new car looking leather and carpets and new car shining paint. Zero scratches or door dings and it's fun to drive.
$42,000 sales prices for loaded Overlands is a decent price difference than $48,000. Don't get me wrong, as I currently feel about the SRT8 I will find a way. Just hoping I can get a loaded WK2 SRT 8 for closer to $46,000 with affiliate pricing. I know it's only a couple of thousand dollars, but I happen to think that's significant when you're stretching your dollars to purchase a new vehicle like this.
If you have to "stretch" to buy a $40k+ vehicle...........then one should not be buying a $40k+ vehicle, they should be buying a $25k vehicle.
What's the difference? Is one lower than the other?
"Invoice" that everyone throws around is not truly the invoice a dealer pays. I am more familiar with GM as my dad is a 31yr retiree and my brother-in-law a former sales manager for many years, but I believe those dealers payed approximately 2.5%-ish under "invoice." GMS discount was generally 3.5%-ish under "invoice."
transam
05-20-2011, 06:28 AM
"Invoice" that everyone throws around is not truly the invoice a dealer pays. I am more familiar with GM as my dad is a 31yr retiree and my brother-in-law a former sales manager for many years, but I believe those dealers payed approximately 2.5%-ish under "invoice." GMS discount was generally 3.5%-ish under "invoice."
So are you saying the factory invoice is generally a lower price than the dealer invoice price, thus getting a better deal with the Affilliate discount applied from factory invoice pricing?
mjw930
05-20-2011, 06:35 AM
If you have to "stretch" to buy a $40k+ vehicle...........then one should not be buying a $40k+ vehicle, they should be buying a $25k vehicle.
+1
"Invoice" that everyone throws around is not truly the invoice a dealer pays. I am more familiar with GM as my dad is a 31yr retiree and my brother-in-law a former sales manager for many years, but I believe those dealers payed approximately 2.5%-ish under "invoice." GMS discount was generally 3.5%-ish under "invoice."
Invoice is the "official" price the dealer pays the manufacturer for the vehicle and is what's charged back on their floorplan. Their actual purchase price is different once you calculate holdback, advertising coop and any factory to dealer incentives. Vehicles sold under the employee purchase programs are sold minus these additional discounts so the dealer only get's a "commission" on the sale. Vehicles sold under supplier/affiliate/friends and family pricing are typically discounted down to the invoice minus the advertising coop but the dealer gets to keep the holdback. Dealers are paid a stipend to complete these sales, to make them "whole" so they get to make the entire difference between original invoice and their eventual "net" purchase price since any incentives are also transferred over to the buyer under these programs.
Chrysler's discount programs are more in the line of 1% and 2.5%, a bit lower than the traditional GM and Ford programs but they usually net out to the dealer about the same profit.
There. clear as mud, isn't it :cool:
Schleprock
05-20-2011, 06:44 AM
So are you saying the factory invoice is generally a lower price than the dealer invoice price, thus getting a better deal with the Affilliate discount applied from factory invoice pricing?
No, other way around. Basically, the invoice you read all over the place is "factory" invoice. Unless you work for the dealer (or have a friend there), you won't ever see "dealer" invoice. If a dealer says they are showing you it, then they are probably lying. This is why buying at "invoice" occurs all of the time, but dealers play it off like they are helping you out so much. They make the difference between the dealer invoice and factory invoice, plus are reimbursed incentives that were deducted. If there is any holdback left on the vehicle they make that as profit as well. Plus, they'll make money off of your trade in in some form or fashion, whether it be at auction or on their used lot.
I always understand the dealers need to make some money when I go to make a deal. However, when they start to pull out the crying card about how much they are giving up I drop the knowledge on them. I'm sure things are changing for this rough calculation in today's climate, but I don't believe it is too far off.
Schleprock
05-20-2011, 06:52 AM
+1
Invoice is the "official" price the dealer pays the manufacturer for the vehicle and is what's charged back on their floorplan. Their actual purchase price is different once you calculate holdback, advertising coop and any factory to dealer incentives. Vehicles sold under the employee purchase programs are sold minus these additional discounts so the dealer only get's a "commission" on the sale. Vehicles sold under supplier/affiliate/friends and family pricing are typically discounted down to the invoice minus the advertising coop but the dealer gets to keep the holdback. Dealers are paid a stipend to complete these sales, to make them "whole" so they get to make the entire difference between original invoice and their eventual "net" purchase price since any incentives are also transferred over to the buyer under these programs.
Chrysler's discount programs are more in the line of 1% and 2.5%, a bit lower than the traditional GM and Ford programs but they usually net out to the dealer about the same profit.
There. clear as mud, isn't it :cool:
Good info, seems that financially it's what I knew, but the technical jargon on hard copy to get you to that point is different.
P.S. Ormond Beach, nice area. Had a friend that lived up there when I was going to Embry-Riddle and getting my grad degree. much nicer than Daytona. We use to divulge in certain consumptions at Outback and TGI Fridays on the corner of A1A a lot.
jgc4ever
05-20-2011, 07:33 AM
If you have to "stretch" to buy a $40k+ vehicle...........then one should not be buying a $40k+ vehicle, they should be buying a $25k vehicle.
I could pay cash for it and might do that; so It's not a problem for me. I guess I should have said of the dollars I'm willing to spend for this vehicle, $46k is as high as I'll go.
Also, LOL at $25k vehicle. My trade will get me $15k toward my next vehicle anyway. Maybe I'm not stretching my dollars at all I guess.
Schleprock
05-20-2011, 07:57 AM
I could pay cash for it and might do that; so It's not a problem for me. I guess I should have said of the dollars I'm willing to spend for this vehicle, $46k is as high as I'll go.
Also, LOL at $25k vehicle. My trade will get me $15k toward my next vehicle anyway. Maybe I'm not stretching my dollars at all I guess.
of course :rolleyes:
jgc4ever
05-20-2011, 08:03 AM
of course :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: back at you.
mjw930
05-20-2011, 12:29 PM
No, other way around. Basically, the invoice you read all over the place is "factory" invoice. Unless you work for the dealer (or have a friend there), you won't ever see "dealer" invoice.
Actually, there's no such thing as a "Dealer" invoice. The only Invoice is what the factory supplies to the dealer and is what floor plan is based on.
What the dealer actually pays is is completely different and I suppose you could call that the "dealer" invoice but there's no such legal document.
It's different for every dealer, every car and changes every month as the floor plan ages and the dealership incurs costs. If you've worked at a dealership you know commission is usually calculated on the difference between the sales price and the printed Invoice price plus any carrying charges. All the other back end payments like hold back, advertising and incentives are not factored in when the salesman gets paid. On occasion there are some direct incentives paid to the sale people from the manufacturer but that varies widely and is really none of our business.
In fact, what the dealer actually pays for the vehicle is really none of our business. I remember the day when no one had access to the "Invoice" except the dealership employees. Since the Internet and services like NADA, KBB and Edmunds Invoice has become a relatively meaningless number and manufacturers have been forced to inflate that and provide back end incentives to cover the difference just so their customers, the dealers, could actually make a living. Anyone that actually thinks they are purchasing a vehicle at or below what the dealer really paid is deluding themselves.
BigHemi2
05-26-2011, 10:25 AM
I've already put a modest deposit on my 2012 SRT8 and am waiting for the order date. I have my control number for the affiliate program but can't get a clear answer from my dealer. They say they will give the discount if Chrysler covers the SRT8 in the affiliate program. Last time I checked only 2011 vehicles are included and Jeep and Chrysler SRT's are not even mentioned. What's the real story?
BuckeyeSRT
05-26-2011, 12:00 PM
I've already put a modest deposit on my 2012 SRT8 and am waiting for the order date. I have my control number for the affiliate program but can't get a clear answer from my dealer. They say they will give the discount if Chrysler covers the SRT8 in the affiliate program. Last time I checked only 2011 vehicles are included and Jeep and Chrysler SRT's are not even mentioned. What's the real story?
I did the same thing this morning.
Schleprock
06-01-2011, 06:35 PM
Add me to the list. Order sheet is spec'd out and dealer is just waiting for order bank to open for the U.S.A. Thankfully, they also said they will honor the Affiliate Pricing so long as Jeep/Chrysler allows it on the vehicle. If not, it's MSRP.
Thus......Jeep/Chrysler could save or cost me a few thousand dollars they won't even see!! Hope they accept it :)
cyanideg
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
So I had my dealer place an order for a new 2012 SRT8. Obviously there is no pricing YET but should I still sign up for this affiliate pricing thing? I mean, will my dealer try to give me a price thats above what this 1% discount will do for me? I never get how the dealers do deals these days.. I see like 3 dif prices on the stickers usually, MSRP, invoice, and something else? Call me stupid but can someone help me out with all this? I want to get the best possible price and if this $60 membership will save me a few grand then im all for it. But if my dealer can just give me a good price to match this affiliate thing then whats the point of wasting $60?
Schleprock
06-10-2011, 03:16 PM
So I had my dealer place an order for a new 2012 SRT8. Obviously there is no pricing YET but should I still sign up for this affiliate pricing thing? I mean, will my dealer try to give me a price thats above what this 1% discount will do for me? I never get how the dealers do deals these days.. I see like 3 dif prices on the stickers usually, MSRP, invoice, and something else? Call me stupid but can someone help me out with all this? I want to get the best possible price and if this $60 membership will save me a few grand then im all for it. But if my dealer can just give me a good price to match this affiliate thing then whats the point of wasting $60?
pay $60 to save $3000+? I'll take those returns all day long, can I get my retirement account to start doing that?????
See my other post regarding this question you had in the other thread. Participation and sale price are completely up to the dealer accepting to do it.
jeep2011
06-10-2011, 03:20 PM
So I had my dealer place an order for a new 2012 SRT8. Obviously there is no pricing YET but should I still sign up for this affiliate pricing thing? I mean, will my dealer try to give me a price thats above what this 1% discount will do for me? I never get how the dealers do deals these days.. I see like 3 dif prices on the stickers usually, MSRP, invoice, and something else? Call me stupid but can someone help me out with all this? I want to get the best possible price and if this $60 membership will save me a few grand then im all for it. But if my dealer can just give me a good price to match this affiliate thing then whats the point of wasting $60?
It is suppose to be 1% below invoice, not just 1% which is pretty significant. I'm expecting around $47K for my fully loaded SRT8. I am still trying to get a friend that works for Fiat to see if I can get his 5% below invoicing price.
adrian6682
06-11-2011, 12:10 AM
Well, I spent the last couple of hours researching the topic of Tread Lightly's affiliate program, and it appears to be genuine. Wether or not the invoice price they claim is what the dealer actually pays is a whole other matter, but one that I am not really concerned with. I joined and am kind of happy just knowing that i contributed to a worthwhile cause although I would be lying if i said the reason i joined was anything other than the discount. Either way Tread Lightly seems to be a respected organization so I paid my $60 dollars and will hope for the best.
Scottina06
06-11-2011, 05:59 AM
Will they accept these discounts on srt's? I dont think they're included.....
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mjw930
06-11-2011, 06:04 AM
Will they accept these discounts on srt's? I dont think they're included.....
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Direct from the affiliate website
You can choose from most select Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge vehicles.
Dodge Viper (ACR) is not currently eligible for this program.
The Viper (ACR) is the only vehicle explicitly excluded at this point so you should be able to use the program for all the other SRT vehicles but it's up the the dealer whether they honor the pricing in the end. Note the vague wording, "most select". That's their way of opening the the door to dealer interpretation. Historically the Chrysler program has been the loosest of the big 3 so it's a crap shoot based on the dealer's greed.
jgc4ever
06-11-2011, 06:28 AM
I've contacted one of the three Jeep dealers in my area (Omaha) and he emailed me that they always honor affiliate pricing. This is where I bought my current Grand Cherokee where I just negotiated the price down. So if the 2012 Jeep SRT8 is part of the Affiliate program and it appears it may be, it will be accepted.
Schleprock
06-11-2011, 07:19 AM
Will they accept these discounts on srt's? I dont think they're included.....
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NOT offering Affiliate provides no extra incentive to Chrysler Corp. them self. Dealer pays Chrysler the invoice. I believe anything over top of that goes to the dealer, not to Chrysler.
I can see it on the ACR (and new Viper) simply to keep demand very low, and resale as high as possible, so that it remains a true collector's item.
Scottina06
06-11-2011, 01:54 PM
I actually shopped for a 2009 or 2010 SRT when they were hugely discounted($10K plus) and I couldve sworn the SRT's were not included in the affiliate programs. It will be great if they are! I really want one...but its not very economical for my wife to drive(80 mile commute) and me and my current Jeep(I know,....its a poser and so am I(rolls eyes) have an emotional connection. Plus only a two car garage.......
I need a new house......LOL
mjw930
06-11-2011, 02:29 PM
I just spoke with my dealer's GM and he hasn't heard if it will be excluded from the program but since the Dodge and Chrysler SRT's are included he's inclined to thing this will be too.
He obviously doesn't have pricing yet and says he won't probably the 1st or 2nd week of July. He also doesn't know what his allocation will be. He said that information hasn't been forwarded yet.
His words to me, if he's getting more than one then he'll honor Affiliate pricing for an existing customer (me). If he's only getting allocation for 1 then it's MSRP for an existing customer and MSRP+ for a walk in.
Hey, at least he's up front and honest about it!
Mmartin
06-11-2011, 03:07 PM
I worked at a Jeep store till earlier this week when I made a job change. As for affiliates pricing, SRT's have been included in the past. With that being said when the 2008 1/2 Challenger SRT's came out and were selling for above sticker they wouldn't honor affiliate pricing, so unless the new SRT8 GC's come out and are selling for above sticker you should be able to use that discount. So I would sign up for the membership to get the affiliate pricing.
SRTDogg
06-11-2011, 05:29 PM
Wait now you are saying $60/year (one time) to join some membership which gets you $10K off MSRP!?!??!? Seriously???
Schleprock
06-11-2011, 06:13 PM
I worked at a Jeep store till earlier this week when I made a job change. As for affiliates pricing, SRT's have been included in the past. With that being said when the 2008 1/2 Challenger SRT's came out and were selling for above sticker they wouldn't honor affiliate pricing, so unless the new SRT8 GC's come out and are selling for above sticker you should be able to use that discount. So I would sign up for the membership to get the affiliate pricing.
The paying over sticker for the Challenger's had nothing to do with SRT's being exempt from the Affiliate program. SRT's were allowed, dealers were simply not participating in accepting it (which they can do).
Wait now you are saying $60/year (one time) to join some membership which gets you $10K off MSRP!?!??!? Seriously???
Noooooo. Yes on the $60 for a 3-year membership. No on the $10k amount. Just throwing a ballpark here, but invoice for a vehicle this price is usually about $2500-3500 below whatever the sticker is, so you would get an additional 1% below that. So for an example, say you pay the $60 for the treadlightly membership and the Sticker is $50,000, say invoice is $47,000, your Affiliate price would be $46,530 for the Jeep. You just paid $60 to save $3470. You're +$3410 in the green on that deal!!!
SRTDogg
06-11-2011, 06:45 PM
Ok, understood, that's awesome, thanks!! :D
Schleprock
06-16-2011, 12:01 PM
According to someone on another forum (dealer), they have contacted Chrysler's Affiliate HQ and have been told the Jeep, Charger, and 300 WILL NOT be eligible for Affiliate Pricing once 2012 info is posted.
If so, lame move on Chrysler's end.
Scottina06
06-16-2011, 02:20 PM
I was saying this last week...but no one would listen. AND I got it straight from ChryCo PR
mjw930
06-16-2011, 02:41 PM
According to someone on another forum (dealer), they have contacted Chrysler's Affiliate HQ and have been told the Jeep, Charger, and 300 WILL NOT be eligible for Affiliate Pricing once 2012 info is posted.
If so, lame move on Chrysler's end.
I was saying this last week...but no one would listen. AND I got it straight from ChryCo PR
Well that SUX, especially since they do accept it on the 2011 SRT's...... :slapfight:
nosmoke
06-16-2011, 04:06 PM
I called Chrysler Affiliates, and they said that as of the latest May 31st update, all 2012 models are included except Viper. I really hope that's correct.
Tnrboy
06-16-2011, 06:47 PM
I really really really really... (many more really's) hope they don't come out and say it isn't eligible. I have my control number and am just waiting for my dealer to tell me it is go time. The website for the program makes no mention to it only being available for model year 2011. It does say that the program was renewed for 2011.
Ughhhhhhh.
Tnrboy
06-17-2011, 06:32 AM
For what it is worth, here is the body of an email response from Chrysler Affiliates....
"Thank you for contacting us. At this time there is no set date as to when the 2012 vehicles will be added to the affiliate program. I apologize for any inconvience this may cause you but until the 2012's are in full production we can not give a date as to when the discount can be applied. At this time the discount only applies to our 2011 model year vehicles.
Thank you again for contacting us
Chrysler Affiliate Rewards Program Headquarters"
TLDR; Boo, no 2012 SRT8 discount yet.
Street
06-18-2011, 06:48 PM
I emailed Chrysler affiliates before finding this thread to see if it will be included as well... haven't heard back yet. I think some dealers are just saying it is not included because the list hasn't been updated yet to include the 2012 model and some people may be taking the lack of it not being on the list as in it won't be offered at all.
Scottina06
06-19-2011, 06:56 AM
guys...from my sources...which are very good....the supply of the 2012 Jeep SRT8 is gonna be VERY low. The source very seriously doubts there will be ANY discounts, incentives etc. on these babies. That also goes with what the local dealer and area rep are telling me. They hope to supply each dealer with their allotment....but its gonna be tight. So what that tells me is pricing will be "tight" as well. These are gonna be hard to come by...so dont look for my discounts.
nosmoke
06-19-2011, 09:13 AM
guys...from my sources...which are very good....the supply of the 2012 Jeep SRT8 is gonna be VERY low. The source very seriously doubts there will be ANY discounts, incentives etc. on these babies. That also goes with what the local dealer and area rep are telling me. They hope to supply each dealer with their allotment....but its gonna be tight. So what that tells me is pricing will be "tight" as well. These are gonna be hard to come by...so dont look for my discounts.
I still don't get the connection. Just because they're making fewer cars doesn't mean they have to allow price gouging. If the cars go "out of stock" for a few months to catch up on orders, then so be it. But that doesn't mean that disallowing affiliate pricing will change anything. Do they think that affiliate pricing drives up order volume? Isn't that what they WANT?
Scottina06
06-19-2011, 10:12 AM
I guess the supply will be smaller than demand. So the dealers will hold out for the highest bidder. I know theer were reports when the last SRT coming out with dealers asking substantially more than sticker.....
jeep2011
06-19-2011, 11:49 AM
With sold orders it shouldn't make a difference. I could understand with the dealers that bought the SRT's to charge an arm and a leg for. Why not ramp up production if the demand is there? It will of course hurt their CAFE rating.
Scottina06
06-19-2011, 11:56 AM
IMO....if theyre gonna charge more for on the lot trucks....theyre gonna charge the same for ordered/sold Jeeps. Who knows though...????
SvenskaJeepGuy
06-19-2011, 12:53 PM
I called Chrysler Affiliates, and they said that as of the latest May 31st update, all 2012 models are included except Viper. I really hope that's correct.
that seems to be an inaccurate email.......... since there is no 2012 viper :thumbsup:
Street
06-19-2011, 12:59 PM
that seems to be an inaccurate email.......... since there is no 2012 viper :thumbsup:
he probably meant the Viper in general, the Viper has never been included
nosmoke
06-19-2011, 03:10 PM
he probably meant the Viper in general, the Viper has never been included
Yes, the 2011 or (2010 whatever it is) Viper is not included.
BuckeyeSRT
06-19-2011, 06:51 PM
These are gonna be hard to come by...so dont look for my discounts.
Unless you work a deal at order time like "affiliate pricing if available and if not within a few hundred $$$ of what 1% under would be" :)
Scottina06
06-19-2011, 07:31 PM
LOL....that should be "many"
jeep2011
06-19-2011, 08:30 PM
LOL....that should be "many"
HAHAHA I was trying to figure out what kinda discount you were offering ;)
barho
06-20-2011, 10:12 AM
I guess the supply will be smaller than demand. So the dealers will hold out for the highest bidder. I know theer were reports when the last SRT coming out with dealers asking substantially more than sticker.....
Yeah, but in July & August 2006 the first year SRT was offered at Employee Pricing AFTER they were sold that same year to people that didn't know any better for over MSRP.
Folks, trust me, if you wait until mid year of the first year of production, you WILL see discounts. If you gotta have it first thing, expect to pay MSRP or above.
Street
06-20-2011, 10:36 AM
Yeah, but in July & August 2006 the first year SRT was offered at Employee Pricing AFTER they were sold that same year to people that didn't know any better for over MSRP.
Folks, trust me, if you wait until mid year of the first year of production, you WILL see discounts. If you gotta have it first thing, expect to pay MSRP or above.
please dont pay MSRP. I was just offered @ invoice pricing which I'll probably take. Sure I could probably wait a year and get it a bit cheaper but for me, the fun part is having a new car that you don't see anywhere else and no one has seen before.
Scottina06
06-20-2011, 11:14 AM
Yeah, but in July & August 2006 the first year SRT was offered at Employee Pricing AFTER they were sold that same year to people that didn't know any better for over MSRP.
Folks, trust me, if you wait until mid year of the first year of production, you WILL see discounts. If you gotta have it first thing, expect to pay MSRP or above.
I see what youre saying....BUT the economy, Jeep and ChryCo were in a different situation then. The wk2 has been HUGELY successful and this Jeep will be RARE....I promise. These dealers will tell you anything till the Jeep arrives and they have 10 customers wanting it.
jeep2011
06-20-2011, 11:29 AM
I see what youre saying....BUT the economy, Jeep and ChryCo were in a different situation then. The wk2 has been HUGELY successful and this Jeep will be RARE....I promise. These dealers will tell you anything till the Jeep arrives and they have 10 customers wanting it.
When it is a sold order it really doesn't matter if someone else wants it for MSRP or above. A sold order is already sold to the person who placed it. I am not worried at all about the discount they will honor the affiliate pricing....there of course will be a few out there that will try to take advantage of others.
jgc4ever
06-20-2011, 11:36 AM
Not sure why anyone would post that they expect people to pay MSRP whether they believe it or not. You're not doing us customers any favors by putting that out there.
DON'T PAY NEAR MSRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously someone may want you to believe that's the fact or maybe it is, but the point is if they know you post a lot on this forum (or run it), they aren't going to want it all over the internet that dealers will sell these below invoice.
Street
06-20-2011, 11:38 AM
sure they can try to screw you once the vehicle comes in but thats why you make a deal and get your price in writing.
Street
06-20-2011, 11:40 AM
Not sure why anyone would post that they expect people to pay MSRP whether they believe it or not. You're not doing us customers any favors by putting that out there.
DON'T PAY NEAR MSRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously someone may want you to believe that's the fact or maybe it is, but the point is if they know you post a lot on this forum (or run it), they aren't going to want it all over the internet that dealers will sell these below invoice.
agreed. A dealer offered me invoice -1% with affiliate pricing or at invoice if affiliate pricing is not available. That sounds pretty fair to me.
Schleprock
06-20-2011, 11:55 AM
When it is a sold order it really doesn't matter if someone else wants it for MSRP or above. A sold order is already sold to the person who placed it.
Negative Ghostrider
nosmoke
06-20-2011, 12:37 PM
If for some crazy reason, Chrysler disallows affiliate pricing, I would hope my dealer would say, "I'll still honor invoice." But who knows.
If they screw me, I guess walking away and saving 50K wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.:mad:
QuickOne
06-20-2011, 07:06 PM
If for some crazy reason, Chrysler disallows affiliate pricing, I would hope my dealer would say, "I'll still honor invoice." But who knows.
If they screw me, I guess walking away and saving 50K wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.:mad:
Sounds like a question for the dealer ASAP, no?
If not, move on.
The first ones will be harder to get deals on.
This isn't something that every person who puts an order in, gets one.
So, the dealer who gets 3 orders, but is only allocated one, who do you think they're selling that one to, the cheapest price offered or the most? :rolleyes:
Schleprock
06-21-2011, 05:56 AM
Sounds like a question for the dealer ASAP, no?
If not, move on.
The first ones will be harder to get deals on.
This isn't something that every person who puts an order in, gets one.
So, the dealer who gets 3 orders, but is only allocated one, who do you think they're selling that one to, the cheapest price offered or the most? :rolleyes:
When the dealer orders the vehicle through the system, they know very soon whether they are getting it. If they are not allocated enough units to match the order, the additional orders are cancelled. My dealer ordered 4 in the same day, mine and another guys was accepted, the other 2 were cancelled.
So, unless they keep it secret for months and don't tell the buyer (which is the buyer's fault because they should ask for the order sheet and see the VON/build priority info), there will be no "3 orders with only 1 showing up" down the line.
12Jeep
08-04-2011, 07:00 AM
Time to check on this topic again. Has anyone recieved confirmation either way whether or not the affliate program will include the Grand Cherokee SRT-8's?
I know a few of you have deals at the "affliate price", looking for confirmation on the program itself rather than individual deals. A few of us have dealers who will honor the affliate price if the the SRT-8 is covered under the program.
nosmoke
08-04-2011, 07:18 AM
Time to check on this topic again. Has anyone recieved confirmation either way whether or not the affliate program will include the Grand Cherokee SRT-8's?
I know a few of you have deals at the "affliate price", looking for confirmation on the program itself rather than individual deals. A few of us have dealers who will honor the affliate price if the the SRT-8 is covered under the program.
Nobody knows for sure yet. I'm already in doubt after they jacked the price up, but if they don't allow affiliate pricing, I am 100% out. I'm already over 61K OTD WITH affiliate pricing.
Schleprock
08-04-2011, 10:27 AM
Time to check on this topic again. Has anyone recieved confirmation either way whether or not the affliate program will include the Grand Cherokee SRT-8's?
I know a few of you have deals at the "affliate price", looking for confirmation on the program itself rather than individual deals. A few of us have dealers who will honor the affliate price if the the SRT-8 is covered under the program.
all vehicles are provided an FFP and EP cost when pricing comes out. You won't know if it is eligible until units slated for public sale come off the line, are delivered to lots, and ready to be purchased.
I haven't checked recently, but I believe the SRT8 Challenger was already on the list with any Viper model as a "no go" for the program.
QuickOne
08-04-2011, 05:24 PM
Nobody knows for sure yet. I'm already in doubt after they jacked the price up, but if they don't allow affiliate pricing, I am 100% out. I'm already over 61K OTD WITH affiliate pricing.
NoSmoke...
There's a BUNCH of dealers offering the same deal as affiliate pricing. If you need help, PM me and I'll point you in the direction of one that I know is.
nosmoke
08-04-2011, 06:01 PM
NoSmoke...
There's a BUNCH of dealers offering the same deal as affiliate pricing. If you need help, PM me and I'll point you in the direction of one that I know is.
Thanks, man!
12Jeep
09-06-2011, 07:50 AM
No surprise here, the Chrysler Affiliate rewards site has now been updated to note that all SRT vehicles are excluded from the program at this time.:(
Schleprock
09-06-2011, 08:04 AM
Maybe I should just exclude Ralph and his buddies product from my garage then since my money at affiliate price isn't green enough.
Everyone I know who knows I have the truck ordered, thinks I am an idiot for continuing to buy it at this ridiculous price point anyway.
Street
09-06-2011, 09:06 AM
Maybe I should just exclude Ralph and his buddies product from my garage then since my money at affiliate price isn't green enough.
Everyone I know who knows I have the truck ordered, thinks I am an idiot for continuing to buy it at this ridiculous price point anyway.
agreed.... like was that really necessary? They hit us with a 12k price increase and can't even give affiliate pricing.
Schleprock
09-06-2011, 09:17 AM
The Affiliate Pricing doesn't even affect Chrysler's bottom line. It does hinder the dealers chance to make a boatload though.
nosmoke
09-07-2011, 04:52 PM
No surprise here, the Chrysler Affiliate rewards site has now been updated to note that all SRT vehicles are excluded from the program at this time.:(
Looks more and more like an Overland for me.
Scottina06
09-07-2011, 04:54 PM
we knew they would be excluded....no suprise to me
nosmoke
09-08-2011, 11:11 AM
we knew they would be excluded....no suprise to me
Well, we'll see if my dealer will at least give me invoice before I cancel.
But every dollar above and beyond is making this purchase less and less pleasurable for me.
Unsequestered
09-15-2011, 08:16 AM
Regarding the price protection program, does that protection include the tow group increase, or just audio and lux?
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