Superchips for 99-09 WK, Wj etc.

[Scottina06]

Post questions about the superchip programmer here

[Scottina06]

part # for the 99-08 Jeep gas vehicles is 3875. the best price i have found so far is on www.airram.com

[Robert Palmer]

^Yeah thats a spanking deal, 315 shipped.

[Bslagle05]

What are your thoughts on it Scott? Big difference? Can we get a little review?

[Scottina06]

What are your thoughts on it Scott? Big difference? Can we get a little review?

I could tell a huge difference even before my newest mods! Def. 20 hp stronger....better shift points, ran cooler etc. I can really tell the difference with the AC on. the truck PULLS much harder and gets to the redline faster.

[dreamer1213]

I have to get my hands on one one of these days...would like to see what the H.O acts like after it.... :D

[Bslagle05]

hmmm... this might have to go on my list of things to buy

[saleen032]

I am happy with mine, even after the initial problem I had..But now I would recommend it...And the other important thing to do, is to update it frequently...they change settings and other configurable options...

[Scottina06]

I had a TSB performed on my Jeep and superchips had a new program for mine the next business morning.

you can also change 1-2 WOT throttle shift points and speed limiter with the superchips

[Dylans3960ccs]

how come airram only has stuff for the 4.7?

[Scottina06]

he doesnt dude.....look at his whole site. But he does have mnore stuff for the 4.7 and he is about the only vendor that does. Everyone else is the 5.7 or 6.1

[TeamCherokee06]

how come airram only has stuff for the 4.7?

It's supply and demand,most people have 4.7L or Hemi's(5.7 or 6.1)and it's easier to stock parts for people that will by them.Although the 4.0 is a famous motor people don't uselly build them to go fast so the demand is down and he doesn't need to supply.He does have some odds and ends for the 3.7 and he is getting more because the demand is there!

[dreamer1213]

The Jeep tuner will work on the 4.0's too....they tune all WJ engines...so if you wanted to go with one Dylan...you'll be fine...

[TeamCherokee06]

I am going to go B&G tune on the 3.7 when it's time for peformance.

[SoCalMoparWK]

Well worth the money and I think it is a Top rated product.

[Scottina06]

The Jeep tuner will work on the 4.0's too....they tune all WJ engines...so if you wanted to go with one Dylan...you'll be fine...

yeah....so save your allowance and b-day money and get one....LOL....sorry had too

[LTrainGC]

I will be filling up tomorrow at some point I'm sure... EVIC is reading 25 miles to empty, and I've put 285 miles on this tank so far. I'm guessing somewhere around 17 MPG for this tank, which is in line with what I got pre-superchips, however I've been driving a bit harder than normal this tank.

I'm more interested to see what I get on the highway now with the 91 tune but MDS disabled.

[LTrainGC]

Got 15.96 MPG on my first tank with the SC 91 tune and MDS disabled. Not surprising because I got on it more than usual. I'll be a bit more easy going this tank.

[Dylans3960ccs]

yeah....so save your allowance and b-day money and get one....LOL....sorry had too

Geez I wish I got allowance I am going to get a job after summer school though.

[Scottina06]

Geez I wish I got allowance I am going to get a job after summer school though.

LOL...allowance FTW! You are lucky though....I never had a car till I went to college. It was a 1984 Chrysler Laser......and if it had a fluid...it leaked. I drove it from my hometown in KY to tuscaloosa, AL several times though....filling with fluids on the way there.....LOL

[Frankie]

LOL...allowance FTW! You are lucky though....I never had a car till I went to college.

x2, I didnt even get my license til I was 18!

[ryanwk]

sweet i just placed my order with airram:D

[baronvonhavok]

hey guys i don't see anything for a 2004 4.7L. is the site still under construction or is nothing out for it?

[scottsjeep05]

yeah....so save your allowance and b-day money and get one....LOL....sorry had too


ouch haha!!

[Scottina06]

hey guys i don't see anything for a 2004 4.7L. is the site still under construction or is nothing out for it?

the superchips programmer you need is 3875. you can get them at airram.com for $315

[00wj]

i wish i would have seen this sooner... i could of saved $10...
I get mine today!!! cant wait

[ryanwk]

anyone know if it will work with a MAC or do you need a PC to do the updates?
tia
ryan

[Dylans3960ccs]

you could always just go to the library and do it there if it dosen't work on a mac.

[Scottina06]

I would think it will work with Mac

[hemi.jon]

ill sell mine for $290 shipped!

[00wj]

Got mine... installed it... tested it...
I like it... its worth it... I dont have to step on it in order for it to speed up... it also gave me the greatest pull ever lol

[mzh29]

So I will definently be getting one of these next week after these reviews. It just plugs in under the dash?

[hemi.jon]

So I will definently be getting one of these next week after these reviews. It just plugs in under the dash?


plug in, follow directions, install tune, when it says, unplug. store until needed again, its real easy. like i said above il sell mine for $290 shipped its basically brand new. i installed the tune and thats all i touched on it, if someone wants to buy it, ill remove my tune and ship it right out!

[mzh29]

plug in, follow directions, install tune, when it says, unplug. store until needed again, its real easy. like i said above il sell mine for $290 shipped its basically brand new. i installed the tune and thats all i touched on it, if someone wants to buy it, ill remove my tune and ship it right out!


Why are you selling?

[NHWK05]

So i am thinking of getting a superchip this winter when i can afford it.

I am a newb to this stuff so please enlighten me.

How does it work? Does it just plug in to the computer?

Do you have to program it the way you want it?

When i open the box when it arrives is it plug in and go?

thanks

[mzh29]

So i am thinking of getting a superchip this winter when i can afford it.

I am a newb to this stuff so please enlighten me.

How does it work? Does it just plug in to the computer?

Do you have to program it the way you want it?

When i open the box when it arrives is it plug in and go?

thanks

I believe it comes with a couple different tunes already programmed for our jeeps. It would plug in to the plug under the dash. Literally plug and play.

[hemi.jon]

Why are you selling?


im looking into a diablo, because since i dont have emissions, and i want to delete certain things from my motor, i can shut down the circuits to them with the diablo so my CEL wont trip.

the SC is amazing, i love it. the jeep feels great with it, all in all its just i want more custom features



So i am thinking of getting a superchip this winter when i can afford it.

I am a newb to this stuff so please enlighten me.

How does it work? Does it just plug in to the computer?

Do you have to program it the way you want it?

When i open the box when it arrives is it plug in and go?

thanks


it works by plugging it into the OBD2 port, under your dash. you turn the key on and follow the instructions, you can pick a preset tune, for milage hp or towing etc., or custom set your own preferences, such as shift firmness rpm ranges and etc..

when you open the box, hook it to you pc and dl the updater to make sure everything is up to date and working the best (it takes 10minutes) and then your good to go

[NHWK05]

it works by plugging it into the OBD2 port, under your dash. you turn the key on and follow the instructions, you can pick a preset tune, for milage hp or towing etc., or custom set your own preferences, such as shift firmness rpm ranges and etc..

when you open the box, hook it to you pc and dl the updater to make sure everything is up to date and working the best (it takes 10minutes) and then your good to go

Cool, Thanks, I am assuming once its programed you can unplug it and store it, you dont need to leave it plugged in?

I cant wait to get one. Once i get my work situation figured out and some bills paid this will be on the top of my mods list.

[Scottina06]

you can also log with it....tons of features

[mzh29]

you can also log with it....tons of features

May be a dumb question but what do you my by "log". Does it give 0-60 and quarter mile times too?

[Scottina06]

yes...all kinds of times 0-40, 50 60 100. 1/8 th mile., 1/4 miles, you can log intake temps, coolant temp...all kinds of things

[mzh29]

yes...all kinds of times 0-40, 50 60 100. 1/8 th mile., 1/4 miles, you can log intake temps, coolant temp...all kinds of things

sweeet, does it give it to you real time? like if you leav it plugged in or do you have to connect to the computer to view your times? Just curious, what 0-60 time did yours do scott?

[Scottina06]

just leave it plugged in......as soon as you hit the gas it starts the stopwatch...so to speak. My last 0-60 was 6.74(I think) with my current mods minus the TB. But I'd have to look. I dont know how correct it is though. Stock was like 8.??

[mzh29]

just leave it plugged in......as soon as you hit the gas it starts the stopwatch...so to speak. My last 0-60 was 6.74(I think) with my current mods minus the TB. But I'd have to look. I dont know how correct it is though. Stock was like 8.??


I'm definently going to be ordering one next week, i tried timing it myself once just by using the trip timer. No tow/haul, traction on, no shifting, and it was somewhere between 7-8 seconds. 6.74 is pretty quick, is that with your manifold, exhaust, intake?

[Scottina06]

yeah...cams, manifold, intake, exhaust and sc 91 tune

[hemi.jon]

buy mine $290 shipped, its in primo condition, i have the box books, everything!!

[NHWK05]

buy mine $290 shipped, its in primo condition, i have the box books, everything!!

Wish i could...

[mzh29]

buy mine $290 shipped, its in primo condition, i have the box books, everything!!


Tempting, I'm sure it's in perfect condition, but at the same time for 25 bucks more i will get an actual brand new programmer and should anything ever go wrong i would have someone to return it to.

[mzh29]

Well this sucks, today i found out that the side job i was counting on to pay for my flashpaq fell through. Anybody want to give me 315 bucks for my birthday on monday? lol.

[mzh29]

Ordered mine this morning, I can't wait! Scott, how long did it take for you to get yours? I'm hoping to get it by next weekend.

[Scottina06]

got mine next day

[mzh29]

got mine next day


Next day?! Did you pay for overnight shipping?

[Scottina06]

LOL...no...it was included from the vendor I got it from

[mzh29]

Just tracked my package on fedex.com, it's on the truck in route for delivery!!! Oh the anticipation is killing me!

[Scottina06]

LOL.....good luck! I got some packages already from fedex

[mzh29]

Scott are you using the 87 or 91 tune? Where do you have the transmission settings at?

[Scottina06]

I just installed the 91 can tune for now

[mzh29]

Well i received my flashpaq today, really excited to try it out. So i made sure i had all the updates and went to my truck. The results, SUCKED! I tested 0-60 using the programmer with the factory tune. First off in drive, traction on, tow/haul off, no shifting. I did it in 8.47 seconds. Then using the shifter to change gears i did it in 7.72 seconds. Then with a tank full of 93 octane and the 91 tune installed i did 0-60 in 11.12 SECONDS!!!! WTF!? I will be contacting superchips, hopefully there is something wrong with the programmer so that maybe they can change the tune or something. Otherwise this puppy is going back.

[Scottina06]

dang man.....go try it again...4 seconds difference? Msaybe you did 0-60 the first time and then 0-100 the second time....I dont know

[Scottina06]

FYI-the 91 tune only adds 21 hp......thats not gonna be a huge jump in a 0-60 time....

[mzh29]

No it was definently 0-60 each time.


UPDATE:^^^ I just tried reinstalling the program. This time, i unplugged the cord for my ipod and took out the cd from the cd player. I noticed the install took a little longer.

BIG difference!!!!! Feels like i'm driving a totally lighter car. I feel bad for ranting earlier. I think only half the program got installed, for whatever reason. It would not down shift at all when i punched it around 20-35 miles per hour, like i said earlier, it felt like a dead pedal. Then actually one time it was acting like a dead pedal and then all of a sudden around 50mph it kicked in like a s.o.b and i took off. I think there was a glich or something the first couple times. Like i said, maybe the ipod being plugged in did something, even though it was turned off.

[Scottina06]

yeah...nothing can be on...no ac...radio...nothing

[w87will]

Anyone use this on the 4.0L? Very curious. I"d like to get one if there are noticeable differences after installing it.

[Dylans3960ccs]

^^ dito

[hemi.jon]

on my 4.oL wrangler i put a Venom 400..it DEFINITELY changed the power on that thing. im sure the SC will do the same.

[mzh29]

Another note, today i tried the towing tune and it got f'ed up again, same symptoms as before. Then it dawned on me, i have an aftermarket amp. So every time i would turn the key to the on position when installing the tune i was also turning the amp on. In the directions it says very clearly to turn everything off. So i disconnected the remote turn on lead on the amp, everything was back to performance mode. So i would just like to remind everyone that uses this product make sure you take out any cd's in the cd player, do not have your ipod plugged in, and make sure your amp is disconnected if you have one. Also it seems like the rev limiter and shift points cannot be adjusted on our wk's. Scott let me know if you can on yours.

[Scottina06]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superchips
The 3.7L has already been proposed and is slated to be an upgrade sometime end of year 09/beginning or 2010.

Scott

[LTrainGC]

Another note, today i tried the towing tune and it got f'ed up again, same symptoms as before. Then it dawned on me, i have an aftermarket amp. So every time i would turn the key to the on position when installing the tune i was also turning the amp on. In the directions it says very clearly to turn everything off. So i disconnected the remote turn on lead on the amp, everything was back to performance mode. So i would just like to remind everyone that uses this product make sure you take out any cd's in the cd player, do not have your ipod plugged in, and make sure your amp is disconnected if you have one. Also it seems like the rev limiter and shift points cannot be adjusted on our wk's. Scott let me know if you can on yours.

Good call on making sure the amp is turned off... I turned my radio off when I installed my 91 tune, and I don't believe my amp turns on unless my radio is turned on. I'll have to double check that though.

As far as the rev limiter and shift points are concerned, I was able to adjust mine.

[mzh29]

What did you set the limiter and shift points to? When i went to raise the limiter the programmer would only let me raise it to 500 rpms?! I was like wtf, that doesnt make any sense. Then again that may have been due to my amp still being hooked up.

[LTrainGC]

I think I bumped the limiter to 6200? I can't remember lol.

I set the shift points to 5800 IIRC.

[mzh29]

Did that seem to help performance?

[LTrainGC]

Did that seem to help performance?

I don't know if just using the tune, or if upping the WOT shift points did it, but under normal driving, even under very light throttle I don't shift out of first until about 2400 and maybe 2200 out of 2nd. It pulls harder above 2500 RPM for sure.

I should reinstall the stock tune, update the tuner, and then update a new 91 tune with the amp disconnected just to be sure that it is done correctly.

[mzh29]

Hmmm... maybe it's because you have the 5.7, but I just tried to adjust WOT shift points and i got the same reading. It says, rev limiter must be set higher than stock. Then i go to adjust the rev limiter and i have a sliding scale from i believe 400rpm to 0600 rpm. Even if I max it out to 0600 rpm it still says, rev limiter must be set higher than stock. I submitted a trouble ticket to their website over a week ago, still no reply.

[Scottina06]

Hey Matt---call them

[mzh29]

I think I will, were you able to make the shift adjustments scott?

[LTrainGC]

Hmmm... maybe it's because you have the 5.7, but I just tried to adjust WOT shift points and i got the same reading. It says, rev limiter must be set higher than stock. Then i go to adjust the rev limiter and i have a sliding scale from i believe 400rpm to 0600 rpm. Even if I max it out to 0600 rpm it still says, rev limiter must be set higher than stock. I submitted a trouble ticket to their website over a week ago, still no reply.

It says 400 to 0600? Or is that a typo and it says 4000 to 6000?

[Scottina06]

I think I will, were you able to make the shift adjustments scott?

yes....06 4.7

[mzh29]

Well I just got off the phone with courtney at superchips, very friendly. She too asked, if i was sure it didn't read 6000 and not 600, but I confirmed it with her on the phone, min setting is 0100 and max is 0600. She was going to put it through to the engineers and have them call me back, we shall see.

[Dylans3960ccs]

hay guys I got a question

since my car runs rich ,if I get a cold air intake will it fix this?

and ,doesen't the superchips remap the fuel delivery?

[Scottina06]

good job Matty!

[jeepfan30]

If anyone is interested in a slightly used SC tuner, PM me.

[Relwarc]

this doesnt include an EGR right? what if i wanna use a superchips tune, but i need to adjust for bigger wheel/tire combo?

[NHWK05]

It will let you adjust for that. AFAIK you dont need a new egr.

[mzh29]

this doesnt include an EGR right? what if i wanna use a superchips tune, but i need to adjust for bigger wheel/tire combo?

Yup, it can correct for larger tires.

[Denny boy]

I think I will be getting this for myself for my B day!! review is on the way!!!!

[ryanwk]

quick ? i need to read some codes that my jeep has thrown but have not hooked up the the sc tuner for the first time will the codes affect the sc tuner when i hook it up
tia

[LTrainGC]

You can do the "on-off-on-off-on" method to get the codes displayed on your EVIC then you can look them up here by doing a search, or post them and I'm sure someone will help you.

I don't think it should be a problem hooking up the SC though.

[mzh29]

I'm hoping mine gets squared away, just did a couple 0-60's with 91 tune and a tank of 93 octane and ran 8.15! That would be slower than stock. Their engineers are working on it.:rolleyes:

[RedRocker]

Superchip finally came out with tunes for the 4.7L Gen II. I installed the 87 octane tune a couple days ago and I'm pretty happy with the results. Stock, you have to wind the Gen II up pretty high before you get any power - so standing starts are kinda lethargic. With the 87 tune it feels like I have power from the first press of the pedal. Also, when stock, there was a little throttle lag - not horrible (like the '05 CRD I drove at a GSW) but still noticeable. Throttle lag seems to be gone now.

Another nice thing about the tune, which I really didn't expect, was better downshifting behavior with the Autostick. I downshift on some hills rather than using the brake (I love the Autostick!) - prior to the tune I'd frequently have to press the brake to slow down enough to then have the gearing take over. With the new tune, the downshifting seems more proactive - I feel a more positive deceleration.

According to the EVIC (yeah, I know it's probably not a truly accurate measure) I think mileage is improved about 1 mpg.

All in all I'm pretty happy with it - I really was quite skeptical - if Superchips can make my Gen II perform this nice, why couldn't Jeep do it from the factory?

[Andrew]

Superchip is listed for $309 Free Shipping! Now that's a deal! :)

http://www.streetsideauto.com/shopping/shopaddtocart.asp?productid=2747422&quantity=1

[Dylans3960ccs]

will this tune get rid of the airy-ness that occures after 3,600RPM?

[ryanwk]

is there a list of what exact options are available in the tuner for our jeeps. I saw one somewhere but can’t find it now?

[freedom77]

hey guys I'm new to the board and I am considering getting the SC tuner but I'm curious about what kind of gains I can expect with the 91 tune. I have an 04 WJ Freedom with the 4.7 h.o V8. Would the gains be different compared to the non h.o V8? I appreciate any advice. thanks!

[Unholyskorn86]

Is this worth it for the I6 4.0 1999 WJ?

[00wj]

Is this worth it for the I6 4.0 1999 WJ?

I think it is worth it... i've untuned it and i dont think i can ever do that again ive gotten use to the extra power... mines 91 tuned and it gave me good amount of power

[Unholyskorn86]

I just wish these things wouldn't be so damn expensive. My truck I only bought for 6 grand lol!