No pano or rear DVD = no sunroof at all?

[BuckeyeSRT]

Just wondering if the SRT8 comes standard with a single pane sun roof?

[mjw930]

Agreed it's confusing but based on the PDF published on the jeep.com it looks like the Pano roof is Optional and the single pane is part of a package (Rear DVD). That would mean that if you don't order the package or the Pano roof you get no sunroof at all.

At least that's my take on the data available. I'm betting very few get built this way.

[P-Dawger]

Agreed. I wanted the Pano and I wanted the DVD = FAIL. (why not just put them in the headrests)?

So if you want the DVD you have to settle for the plain sunroof.

[Milous]

So if you want the DVD you have to settle for the plain sunroof.
And if you want the plain sunroof you have to settle for the DVD.

So if you want a sunroof at all, it's going to cost either $2500 (single sunroof + DVD) or $4200 (pano sunroof + Lux package).

[kbench55]

And if you want the plain sunroof you have to settle for the DVD.

So if you want a sunroof at all, it's going to cost either $2500 (single sunroof + DVD) or $4200 (pano sunroof + Lux package).

Is it still the case that us Canadians can just order the Pano roof without the Lux pkg.

[Milous]

Is it still the case that us Canadians can just order the Pano roof without the Lux pkg.
Nope, you're stuck having to purchase the Lux package just like we are.

[kbench55]

Nope, you're stuck having to purchase the Lux package just like we are.

Ok thanks. I order back on May 30, and it was listed as a separate option not included with the luxury package.

Do you know if this just automatically changes on the order or do I need to call my dealer?

Thanks

PS. I just talked to my dealer and he said it still shows me having the pano roof but no lux pkg ordered.

[Milous]

PS. I just talked to my dealer and he said it still shows me having the pano roof but no lux pkg ordered.
Interesting, looks like your order slipped through before the package requirement was added.

[kbench55]

Interesting, looks like your order slipped through before the package requirement was added.

Does this mean it will eventually change or did I get lucky and get the roof without the package?

[GCOverland]

Agreed. I wanted the Pano and I wanted the DVD = FAIL. (why not just put them in the headrests)?

...or slightly above the center-console like BMW did on their X5?

That's the $1,000,000-question.:thumbsup:

It was already discussed on regular WK2 and I'm still hoping that this issue can be solved sometime. The accessory-list showed a possible solution but I'm not sure that is still valid (or was ever valid). The way it is right now, Jeep is losing money. With a smarter solution, they could cash in on folks wanting both options - and I bet there are some out there (including me)..:lol:

[SRTDogg]

I disagree, a lot of folks are using handhelds and tablets for entertainment during transport. Jeep is at least still offering the original in-car entertainment type systems, which is the norm, so I think they are doing it right. It's just they are trying to get people to buy all of the options they can, and that is why they have priced and organized them the way they have.

[ENFORCER]

So If I do not order a DVD or Pano roof, will I still get a sunroof ?
If so, can I delete the Sunroof, as I do not like them

[jgc4ever]

So If I do not order a DVD or Pano roof, will I still get a sunroof ?
If so, can I delete the Sunroof, as I do not like them

Then you would not get a sunroof at all just like you want. I don't like sunroofs either. Everytime I try to use mine or even just have the shade open, I close it very quickly. Hate the glare.

[GCOverland]

I disagree, a lot of folks are using handhelds and tablets for entertainment during transport. Jeep is at least still offering the original in-car entertainment type systems, which is the norm, so I think they are doing it right.

Makes no sense at all. You are missing the point. The problem is that their factory-option makes it impossible to order the pano-roof. There is absolutely NO reason why they are doing that and not offering a headrest- or center-console solution as factory-option instead that would still make it possible to get the pano.

It's just they are trying to get people to buy all of the options they can, and that is why they have priced and organized them the way they have.

So why is Jeep structuring options in such a way that the selection of one option excludes the other? If you think they are doing it right, this statement is a bit strange, isn't it?;)

[SRTDogg]

They are making money. I didn't say they are doing it in the best interest of US.. It is called Product Management. :D

Just watch, 90% of the vehicles that show up at Dealers will be loaded. People will still buy them because they don't care, they have to have them even if they are optioned up. They are catering too much to the rich old timer tech dude and not enough to the tech dudes who know how to save a buck and still get something awesome or else make it more awesome on our own for a fraction of the price... :D

[GCOverland]

They are making money. I didn't say they are doing it in the best interest of US.. It is called Product Management. :D

Let's say the currently expected MSRP on the SRT8 is accurate. A fully loaded one would be about $51K. If they would have placed the DVD-Player above the center-console, they could sell it for $53K. That's bad product management.

They are making money - but they could be making more..;)

It is not an easy decision between the DVD-Player and the pano-roof and the problem is that both options are quite expensive. And the fact that it is "either/or" is neither in our best interest nor in Jeep's.

[SRTDogg]

Maybe they want Mopar and/or Dealers to do this on their own (they need to make money too and they don't always make it off the vehicles). They likely will have an option, or will soon, for rear-seat console-mounted DVD, or even headrests perhaps.

[Jeff_Jeske]

Well that settles it for me.... no 2012 SRT8. They really need to get their crap together as far as options and pricing. There is no reason for that kind of stupidity.

[BuckeyeSRT]

Let's say the currently expected MSRP on the SRT8 is accurate. A fully loaded one would be about $51K. If they would have placed the DVD-Player above the center-console, they could sell it for $53K. That's bad product management.

They are making money - but they could be making more..;)

It is not an easy decision between the DVD-Player and the pano-roof and the problem is that both options are quite expensive. And the fact that it is "either/or" is neither in our best interest nor in Jeep's.
It was easy for me No Pano and no rear DVD. I'm cool with that. I wish I could get the Pano but I saved some money and still get an SRT. How cool is that?

[SRTDogg]

BuckeyeR/T - Ditto! I will hack my mygig RHB and also put in some tablet headrest mounts for nice 10" widescreen viewing pleasure... :D As for the sunroof, well, I use mine about 1% of the time as it is, so I will find ways around that without one.. :D

[P-Dawger]

With 3 boys - at ages 4, 5 and 1....the rear DVD is a must for sanity on long trips...

I will say that my LR4 has the headrest DVD's....wish Jeep had the same thing...saves room and not sure what some hug screen hanging down in the middle of the roof in the back will do to visibility.

Headrest's are just smarter all around.

Jeep - are you listening....? 2013...DVD headrests, Pano Roof...and I am in.

[BuckeyeSRT]

Quite a few companies make iPad "holders" for rear headrests. Why not go that route and have an iPad to boot? The LR4 is also 15K more money :)

[ENFORCER]

IF I need any rear entertainment, then the Tablet route is far more practical and cheaper.
For the option of the rear DVD here in Oz ($3250) you can buy several ipad2's and headrest mounts. They can also use it for gaming and surfing.

[P-Dawger]

Quite a few companies make iPad "holders" for rear headrests. Why not go that route and have an iPad to boot? The LR4 is also 15K more money :)

Rather not have a "holder"....but to each his own.

Also my 2010 HSE LR4 fully loaded with headrest DVD's came in at $54,200...fully loaded. That is right at Jeep SRT8 pricing with options.

Where is the $15k coming from...?

[BuckeyeSRT]

Rather not have a "holder"....but to each his own.

Also my 2010 HSE LR4 fully loaded with headrest DVD's came in at $54,200...fully loaded. That is right at Jeep SRT8 pricing with options.

Where is the $15k coming from...?
"holder" sorry didnt mean to stoop down to such a peasant term:p:)

[Scottina06]

yeah...but does the hse LR4 really compare to the SRT8? Shouldnt the comparison be between the supercharged and the SRt8?

[P-Dawger]

I don't think the two are really cross shopped....but the LR4 does have almost 400hp/tq - and it does move pretty well for a 6k lb vehicle.

Jeep should be careful on the Overland pricepoint...it is very close and I think cross shopped with the LR4...

LR4 refinement is ridiculous...not sure what the latest Overland is like. I have had 6 Grand Cherokee's each one way better than the last...second to last was an Overland then the 06 SRT8.

It is a toss up on who is better off road...LR4 is very capable off road.

[P-Dawger]

"holder" sorry didnt mean to stoop down to such a peasant term:p:)

You know what I mean...50+k for a vehicle. Don't need "holders" Need built in OEM.

[P-Dawger]

yeah...but does the hse LR4 really compare to the SRT8? Shouldnt the comparison be between the supercharged and the SRt8?

There is no SC LR4 - you have to get the Range Rover for the SC...and it is slower (so damn heavy) and price wise there is no comparison - you can load one up over 6 figures...more like X5M and ML6.3 territory

[BuckeyeSRT]

You know what I mean...50+k for a vehicle. Don't need "holders" Need built in OEM.
Yup, just fun'n ya.
I did a quick search on Google and i don't think some of them look too bad. One of them looks like the OEM one that comes on the ML

[Scottina06]

There is no SC LR4 - you have to get the Range Rover for the SC...and it is slower (so damn heavy) and price wise there is no comparison - you can load one up over 6 figures...more like X5M and ML6.3 territory


yeah...honestly I know nothing of range rover/land rover. I always heard and saw the ratings saying that they were pieces of crap and not reliable. My wifes regional president has some sort of "rover" and she has to have it trucked to Louisville for repairs. It has major electrical problems.

[P-Dawger]

yeah...honestly I know nothing of range rover/land rover. I always heard and saw the ratings saying that they were pieces of crap and not reliable. My wifes regional president has some sort of "rover" and she has to have it trucked to Louisville for repairs. It has major electrical problems.


Well you know enough to combine LR and electrical problems in one sentence. You are in the know

My 01 has 200k on it...pretty reliable but not fancy

The LR4 - yeah quirky electrics...but seems to be better. No major issues with 23k on it yet so we will see but it is def getting the extended warranty.