So what's your plan?

[pantheman75]

So when you take EVERYTHING into consideration about the new Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 (styling, size, more power, more luxury, more weight, exhaust location, multiple significant price increases, omitted updates, updates on the horizon, other cars out there, etc.) what's your plan about getting / not getting the latest Grand Cherokee SRT8?

[Schleprock]

As the days pass, and I see how this plays out, I creep closer to NOT going through with the purchase I decided to continue with since pricing was announced. In all honesty, I'm not happy about how units are being sequenced for build. In addition, the price is pretty ridiculous, performance is OK but not mind blowing, and knowing that the new Nav and tranny are eventually coming sucks. I also have serious doubts about the "price protection" logistics. My dealer is pretty on the ball, and he said he saw nothing come his way regarding price protection on early orders, he only sees the new pricing. The only positives that keep me holding on are the nice interior, exclusivity of owning, and having the extra power/handling of the 6.4L even though it's not faster than the WK1.

I'm seriously considering a 2011 Overland right now as it has all of the bells and whistles only not the 6.4L power and handling. oh yeah, and it will be about $16-17,000 cheaper!!

[BostonDMD]

I am giving it a try and getting an SRT instead of the Cayenne Turbo.

Time will tell if it was a wise decision or not......

[rusty104]

I'm seriously considering a 2011 Overland right now as it has all of the bells and whistles only not the 6.4L power and handling. oh yeah, and it will be about $16-17,000 cheaper!!

I am in the same boat. But when I read that some of the 5.7 JGC owners have complained about it being dead around 40mph when you stomp on it and others are feeling its overall performance isn't hemi-like I go back to the SRT. As you know, it is at least 2 seconds slower 0-60.

On the other hand does the new tranny/programming (I can't figure out which) on the 2012 help performance significantly? And you can get a lifetime powertrain warranty on the 5.7 but not the 6.4 if you want.

[mjw930]

I have a 2011 Overland and was going to swap it out when the price was in the mid 40's but now I'm waiting to see what they come up with in '13 or '14 and how the market treats the new premium pricing.

Ask me again this time next year and I may have a different answer.

[pantheman75]

Well, here's my story:

I was all set to order a Grand Cherokee SRT8 this year until I found out it still has the old 5-speed transmission, the old stereo / navigation head unit, and that the price was jacked up TWICE. I won't even consider buying the new SRT8 at that price until they include an upgraded transmission and stereo / navigation head unit... features that even entry level Dodge's can get.

Until then, I'm sticking with my peppy "poor man's Grand Cherokee SRT8 lite" 2008 Pontiac Torrent GXP with AWD, 24 MPG highway, and 3500 pounds towing for the Wisconsin winters.

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Pontiac/th1/2008-Pontiac-Torrent-GXP-4.jpg

For the summer months, I get my speed fix with my 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP with the turbo upgrade, cat-back exhaust, with only 5,000 original miles. Nearly 300 HP in a 2 seater convertible is REALLY fun by the way...

http://photos2.liquidmotors.com/kd1929/kl14749438/po1/v2/ds180/nd/ns/i2/pic.aspx?1G2MG35X27Y127000_1.jpg

Hopefully, Jeep will "finish" the Grand Cherokee in the next year or two, and maybe MIGHT come to their senses (or be brought back to reality) concerning their price increases. Once the Jeep is set I'll gladly get rid of my two cars and upgrade to a year-round toy :) Until then, Jeep can keep it's "almost there" Grand Cherokee SRT8 with it's massively increased price tag and I'll keep my money and existing cars. Maybe something else will come along in the meantime...

[Schleprock]

I have a 2011 Overland and was going to swap it out when the price was in the mid 40's but now I'm waiting to see what they come up with in '13 or '14 and how the market treats the new premium pricing.

Ask me again this time next year and I may have a different answer.
this is my biggest concern with going through on a SRT purchase now....if '14 comes out with the new tranny and nav/radio setup then the 2012-2013 are going to drop like a rock in the ocean. i was an initial owner of a 2004 impulse blue w/ blue interior GTO, I didn't pay a premium thankfully, but still, after 10 months and seeing what the '05 and '06 models were getting I was kicking myself. I sucked it up for another year or so and then dumped the '04 for a small loss and got the '06. I love the GTO though, it's a great car and I plan to keep it. However, used/trade values for '04s dropped significantly because no one wanted the slower, less equipped versions. I see this possible with the 2012-2013 Jeep SRT8.

[pantheman75]

this is my biggest concern with going through on a SRT purchase now....if '14 comes out with the new tranny and nav/radio setup then the 2012-2013 are going to drop like a rock in the ocean. i was an initial owner of a 2004 impulse blue w/ blue interior GTO, I didn't pay a premium thankfully, but still, after 10 months and seeing what the '05 and '06 models were getting I was kicking myself. I sucked it up for another year or so and then dumped the '04 for a small loss and got the '06. I love the GTO though, it's a great car and I plan to keep it. However, used/trade values for '04s dropped significantly because no one wanted the slower, less equipped versions. I see this possible with the 2012-2013 Jeep SRT8.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Unless you have unlimited funds to be getting a new $61,000+ car every year or two and can withstand an atomic blast of depreciation once the new better equipped models hit, you're making a HUGE mistake with getting a 2012-2013 model. I totally understand the "you've gotta get in at some point" argument, but with other Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep models already sporting the features that the Grand Cherokee SRT8 is missing tells us that the upgrades are right around the corner and will be well worth the wait. Patience pays off!

[BigHemi2]

I'm going to stick with my order and scrape up the extra money. Simple reason is that I want a performance SUV and there is nothing near the GC SRT8 price, even though I think the price increase is outrageous

[bgmail777]

I intended to place an order for one, but when the price was released that delayed me from doing it while I gave it more thought, and then came the price increase, so, that was "the icing in the cake". I am no longer going to buy it.

[Scottina06]

If I can find one in the specs I want....I will buy

[pantheman75]

If I can find one in the specs I want....I will buy

What are the specs that you want?

[Scottina06]

What are the specs that you want?

Base model cherry red

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

[smoove7410]

I love it but wouldn't buy one now for multiple reasons including the new nav will be out in a few years. I have used it in the new 300 and it is very nice.

[bosquemdh]

I'm still planning on getting one! I don't like the price increase and all of that, but I like the look of this Jeep and I think it will be a good driver for me for awhile. I just get impatient with waiting lol.

That being said I know some say that they know their dealer isn't getting one. Is there a way for me to find out if my dealer is still getting one? I am still in BG status even though I ordered it on July 5th. I hope that means I am still getting it and it's just moving slow. I called the dealers and they say they think they are getting some, but no one has any hard and fast answers.

[QuickOne]

Base model cherry red

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Ha ha ahaha...>Good luck. Aren't they all coming pretty much loaded up now?

I have a 2010..>So not quite ready to upgrade, but won't if there's no new tranny with more gears, no new display/navigation and another color than Silver, Red, Black or grey.

Ok...Maybe the color selection woudn't deter me that much, but the price will. I was fully intending on spending 10K more for the new version. (Paid $41K for mine), but I'm not ready to spend 60K on something that gets 13 mpg and isn't any faster than what I have now.

I think in 2014, HP #s are going to be through the roof. Ford Focus RS is going to have 370 Horsepower. Mustangs are going to have 600+ HP. M3 will have 450hp and the Chrysler Corp is even going to have a Pentastar v6 at 400 HP. NO, I'm not comparing the two before you attack.. I'm just saying the 470HP 6.4 liter V8 in a 5100 lb SUV is going to sound miniscal compared to what is out there.

[RCM11]

Not getting...price and potential resale value. S4 on order and just picked up a 02 Tacoma extracab 4x4...both for the price of one GCSRT8.

[ENFORCER]

I will be delaying mine until they come with a better transmission and audio unit, as in Australia they will be around $100k (US$105k) and I just cannot justify this for a 1st release unit. I will just extent the lease on my 400hp sedan (FPV GT-E) and see what it is like. My Wife is getting the JGC Overland CRD, so I will enjoy her ride and get used to it.
I am also need to Jeep and they have a average reputation here, so I also want to ensure they are up to my spec on service and do not let me down on the dealer level.
While I think they are a great car, it is let down by the price and modern features, if they want to play in the Euro space, then need to match the Euro specs and service level.

[BGM130]

After cancelling my order for the 2012, somehow mangaed to get my hands on an S4 that is ready for pick up today(some are waiting till Nov due to shortage). I will sadly be trading in the 07 jeep. I am both exctited and sad at the same time. I stll smile evertime I look at the Mean front of the jeep! anyone looking for a great jeep in NJ head to audi meadowlands hahaha,. would love to see a dedicated member take care of her!!

[tavaresdc]

After cancelling my order for the 2012, somehow mangaed to get my hands on an S4 that is ready for pick up today(some are waiting till Nov due to shortage). I will sadly be trading in the 07 jeep. I am both exctited and sad at the same time. I stll smile evertime I look at the Mean front of the jeep! anyone looking for a great jeep in NJ head to audi meadowlands hahaha,. would love to see a dedicated member take care of her!!

i also live in NJ. the prices for the 2012 srt8 while r high are made worse by the dealers up here adding a mark-up to them. i called a dealer in FL where i got the jeep for near invoice +T&T. on top of it they will taking my truck at KBB value where in NJ the most jeep dealer are based on galves prices which is another 2k lower.
good luck with the S4
chris

[smoove7410]

Ha ha ahaha...>Good luck. Aren't they all coming pretty much loaded up now?

I have a 2010..>So not quite ready to upgrade, but won't if there's no new tranny with more gears, no new display/navigation and another color than Silver, Red, Black or grey.

Ok...Maybe the color selection woudn't deter me that much, but the price will. I was fully intending on spending 10K more for the new version. (Paid $41K for mine), but I'm not ready to spend 60K on something that gets 13 mpg and isn't any faster than what I have now.

I think in 2014, HP #s are going to be through the roof. Ford Focus RS is going to have 370 Horsepower. Mustangs are going to have 600+ HP. M3 will have 450hp and the Chrysler Corp is even going to have a Pentastar v6 at 400 HP. NO, I'm not comparing the two before you attack.. I'm just saying the 470HP 6.4 liter V8 in a 5100 lb SUV is going to sound miniscal compared to what is out there.

Are you sure about the v6? NA or forced induction?

[QuickOne]

Are you sure about the v6? NA or forced induction?
I'm only as sure as what I have read, but considering the source, I trust them.
A twin turbo and single-turbocharger version are planned, for introduction by 2014; both would be based on the smallest size (3.0 liters) and might be slated for limited-production models (e.g. a new Viper based on a Maserati or an SRT mid-sized car). The twin-turbo version appears to projected for a whopping 420 horsepower while the single-turbo appears to be set for 370 hp.

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html

[pantheman75]

I think that I may have found a plan B that I could be VERY happy with...

So here's the deal: I'm REALLY starting to think that not only is the 2012+ Grand Cherokee SRT8 is out of my league price wise; it's WAY out of my league price wise. When you look at competitors with similar features they're even MORE expensive. So, I needed to expand my search to include cars with some compromises but at a much lower price. I may have found what I'm looking for... the 2013 Dodge Charger R/T Max with AWD.

I KNOW it's not an SRT8 anything, but hear me out:

- The price loaded will still be about $20,000 less than the Jeep while still offering high end amenities like the 8.4" head unit (which the Grand Cherokees DO NOT have), heated / ventilated seats with rear heated seats, heated steering wheel, adaptive cruise control, HID headlamps, Harmon / Kardon & Beats Audio, AWD, and will probably include the 8-speed transmission with paddle shifters.

- It still has a pretty badass engine, the 370 horsepower 5.7L Hemi V8 (definitely not the rush of the 470 horsepower 6.4L Hemi, but still enough to put a smile on my face to / from work)

- It can tow with the use of the available Mopar hidden hitch. Not as great of a towing capacity as the Grand Cherokee SRT8 mind you, but enough to meet my needs.

- Although it's not an SUV, it's still a FULL SIZE sedan, so interior room is still GREAT.

- With the new likely 8-speed transmission it should get around 17 MPG city and 26 MPG highway all while running on regular gas (HUGE cost savings over the life of the car there)

- It's infinitely customizable; there are a TON of aftermarket accessories for the Dodge Charger line. For example; here's a 2011 Dodge Charger R/T with the 370 horsepower 5.7L Hemi with a new Corsa aftermarket exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XEU8c7HVgA

The styling is still BADASS:
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/files/2011/06/2011-dodge-charger-front-three-quarters-view-2-1024x640.jpg
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/files/2011/06/2011-dodge-charger-rear-three-quarters-view-1024x640.jpg
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/files/2011/06/2011-dodge-charger-interior-view-1024x640.jpg

So what am I losing? The Charger will be VERY peppy, but won't be crazy fast like the Grand Cherokee SRT8. It has a BIG trunk, but will still have smaller cargo room than the Grand Cherokee SRT8.

Again, I KNOW IT'S NOT A GRAND CHEROKEE SRT8, but you've gotta admit, it's still VERY nice for a HECK of a lot less $$$!

[pantheman75]

(Removed accidental double post)

[JRoll1ns]

I was going to purchase a '12 SRT8 until I realized that for the money the performance hust wasn't there. I mean 465 HP from 6.4L come on. that motor should be pushing low to mid 500's. At 500 hp or 525 hp I can over look certain creature comfort aspects ie new nav new tranny, but not at 465. I mean reall Chrysler the old 6.1 had 425hp... 30 extra hp for 10 grand more than last years and the extra weight isn't worth it to me. However, what is worth the money is putting on an arrington supercharger for 6k. That should put 380 to 430 hp to the ground compared to the srt8 putting down around 382. Before everyone starts complaning this is based off of crank hp - 20% for drive train loss. 5.7L = 360hp crank = 288hp to the wheels . 6.4L = 465 crank = 382 to the wheels. Arrington advertises 100 to 150 rwhp gains. Seems worth it to me.

[robpp]

if the plan is to put the sc on your 2011 it wont work right now. there are NO TUNING options available. so while you might be able to swap parts and get it installed......you can t make it run until tuners come out. for some perspective.....when the 05's came out it took diablo 3 years to be able to TUNE it.

also arrington does not make sc they sell ones made by others. ike magnacharger and such. most of the 6K ones add about 100HP at the wheel when fully tuned.

[Scottina06]

B&G is tuning 2011 PCM's

[JRoll1ns]

yeah I knew they hadn't "cracked" the code yet, and yes i knew that arrington does not make their own.. I guess I should have said Eaton style supercharger and specified that the 100 to 150 rwhp gain was based off of 8 psi or 12 psi boost respectively. The wait seems worth it to me.

[mlarco52]

Hasn't there been proven videos of the 392 (6.4L in the srts) putting down between 420-435 hp at the wheels. There are a bunch on youtube.

[GCOverland]

Well, I'm going to keep a close eye on the SRT8 and the Overland/Summit and monitor pricing/features on the MY2014 which is my target-MY. Depending on what's offered at that time, I'm going to make a decision. Unless pricing on the SRT8 is going to change and/or significant features will be added, the decision will be very difficult. It will be the choice between either missing out on the SRT8's performance or paying too much. Not a great choice..:mad:

If I would be in the market for a MY2012, I wouldn't pick the SRT8.

[Schleprock]

Well, I'm going to keep a close eye on the SRT8 and the Overland/Summit and monitor pricing/features on the MY2014 which is my target-MY. Depending on what's offered at that time, I'm going to make a decision. Unless pricing on the SRT8 is going to change and/or significant features will be added, the decision will be very difficult. It will be the choice between either missing out on the SRT8's performance or paying too much. Not a great choice..:mad:

If I would be in the market for a MY2012, I wouldn't pick the SRT8.
SRT8 price isn't going to drop. I cannot think of one, limited edition model in the history of cars where the price was drastically dropped, let alone reduced at all, as the successive model years were released. If anything, price will go up a bit probably.

[GCOverland]

SRT8 price isn't going to drop. I cannot think of one, limited edition model in the history of cars where the price was drastically dropped, let alone reduced at all, as the successive model years were released. If anything, price will go up a bit probably.

Prices might certainly go up - but it's also possible that prices on the SRT8 might not increase as much as on the other models - who knows. By "change in pricing", I wasn't talking about a price-decrease, I was actually thinking about the "bang for the buck" in comparison to the Overland/Summit.

As of today, the Overland wins the "bang for the buck"-contest hands down. But will that be the case in MY2014 as well?

It seems that Jeep decided to keep production-numbers low for the SRT8 - but nobody knows for sure what they are planning in the future. Nobody expected that massive price-increase either..

What might change, however, is what you get for your money. You can't predict if the SRT8 is going to get select features the other models won't get which would make the higher price more acceptable. The lack of said features is what makes the MY2012 SRT8 a bad deal. I don't "see" the additional $12K as of today. That might change...

[WolfeWS6]

SRT8 price isn't going to drop. I cannot think of one, limited edition model in the history of cars where the price was drastically dropped, let alone reduced at all, as the successive model years were released. If anything, price will go up a bit probably.


Your WK1 SRT8 went down in price (relatively) as compared to the 2006 MY.

The delta between the WK1 Overland and SRT8 decreased from 2006-2010.

[SLtAR]

cant resist, i am weak, will get one ASAP

[VerbalKint]

I understand the disappointment if you currently own a SRT 8 and we're hoping for more HP or a cheaper price. BUT my personal opinion is that this jeep is BAD A$$!!

Fantastic interior and exterior, the ability to tow, ample cargo and passenger room, and plenty of power/performance abilities. It may not be a huge step up if your coming from a WK SRT8, or a WK2, but I think it hits the mark coming from a WK 5.7 or something similar.

I'm in! :thumbsup: