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Matt
09-19-2009, 10:07 AM
I just ordered a slim ballast 5k/5k combo from Tony (what a fantastic deal) -- anyways, I'm curious if the ballast need to "breath" and how much heat they give off. I'm the type who usually goes above and beyond when installing and plan to wrap the ballast in some sort of plastic bag protective thingy and need to know if they ballasts can handle such an environment.

Tony, I'm guessing you're the only one who will be able to answer this, but thought it may be useful to keep the question public for future reference.

Thanks.

Scottina06
09-19-2009, 12:50 PM
surely they are waterproof and you dont need the bag

Chris
09-20-2009, 08:07 AM
Oh snap, Matt got HID's :)

On my mazda they got wet all the time and no issues in 4 years bro..

TimmyB
09-20-2009, 12:19 PM
I mounted my ballasts up higher in the engine bay with the wires facing down. They should be 100% water tight anyways with no need for any additional protection. They do seem to get hot, but not glowing red hot. lol. If anything you want them in the open and not covered so they can dissipate the heat from them.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/tdiglar78/DSC00774.jpg

Mounted inside the fender next to the batttery. The other side I ended up having to mount it lower below the K&N air filter on the CAI heat shield itself. I first had it mounted on the inner fender next to the filter but it was such a tight fit the filter would hit the ballast and it was damaging the filters metal screen.

justa4banger
09-20-2009, 12:46 PM
thanks for the ideas on where to mount the ballast... i just ordered a kit from tony for fogs and lows...

got any pics of the passenger side?

TimmyB
09-20-2009, 01:03 PM
thanks for the ideas on where to mount the ballast... i just ordered a kit from tony for fogs and lows...

got any pics of the passenger side?

Me? I'll go take one right now of it. For the fogs did you get relays too, I thought I heard somewhere relays are not needed for fogs, only for the lows and highs.

justa4banger
09-20-2009, 01:24 PM
i got the relay for only the lows.... the fogs apparently don't need one according to Tcmglx (tony i think).

I still have yet to decide on hi beams.. maybe hir's or something.

Honeslty i was all set to go with HIR's but the price was so cheap. i could pass it up. I know the light could be blinding, but screw it. i'm going to try it anyways.. Maybe i'l adjust the lights to point more downward.

Scottina06
09-20-2009, 01:26 PM
youll def. have to adjust the beams down.....HID's scatter bad in the stock housings

TimmyB
09-20-2009, 01:45 PM
I hardly even use my highs now after installing HID lows. The light output is unreal with them.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk37/tdiglar78/DSC01924.jpg
In red is the relay that I just zip tied to a piece of metal thats there for the stock airbox mount, then in the blue is the ballast that I mounted to the CAI shield below the filter. Its out of the way and doesnt see any water from I can tell. But there's really no places to mount anything, and if I got additional HIDs for the fogs id most likely remove the bumper and mount everything nice and clean.

TimmyB
09-20-2009, 01:48 PM
Oh, and I had HIR lows, they are brighter than stock but the color is no where near the 6500K HID's or LED bulbs in my fogs. For the price id save and do all HIDs IMO.

Matt
09-20-2009, 05:11 PM
Thanks guys, I guess I'll forgo the extra baggage, lol. Just trying to be over protective, haha.

White Chocolate
09-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Hey check out this thread http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=2558 its a good idea on where to install the ballasts, I was able to install all 4 ballasts side by side in my pictures as shown, not gunna lie lol, from what I've seen I may have thee best or the second best install on the site ;)

Matt
09-20-2009, 05:53 PM
Hey check out this thread http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=2558 its a good idea on where to install the ballasts, I was able to install all 4 ballasts side by side in my pictures as shown, not gunna lie lol, from what I've seen I may have thee best or the second best install on the site ;)

Awesome, thanks!!

Matt
09-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Oh snap, Matt got HID's :)

lol, yeah, they were too cheap to say no, haha.

justa4banger
09-20-2009, 07:28 PM
The best HUH... SOMEONE is tooting their own horn lol ...lol

J/K

I actually like the idea of that. i may have to do the same.

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 04:04 AM
I would mount the xentecs out of the reach of water.......

Matt
09-21-2009, 05:05 AM
surely they are waterproof and you dont need the bag

I would mount the xentecs out of the reach of water.......

Bah!

Matt
09-21-2009, 06:58 AM
youll def. have to adjust the beams down.....HID's scatter bad in the stock housings

Hey Scott, how would I adjust them?

tcm glx
09-21-2009, 07:21 AM
Hi Matt,
Sorry I missed this thread.

The ballast are indeed waterproof, and do not heat up. No need to put a bag around them, as most said in this thread, pick a good spot to mount, and enjoy!!

Matt
09-21-2009, 07:28 AM
Hi Matt,
Sorry I missed this thread.

The ballast are indeed waterproof, and do not heat up. No need to put a bag around them, as most said in this thread, pick a good spot to mount, and enjoy!!

Great, thanks Tony!

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 09:15 AM
matt you can put them here like i did
http://www.jeepgarage.org/showpost.php?p=61307&postcount=37

Matt
09-21-2009, 09:19 AM
Noted, thanks Irfy!

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 10:35 AM
Hey Scott, how would I adjust them?

with the adjustment screw......LOL


I forget what the 05-07 looks like...but on top of the lamp you will see a white plastic screw head....use a phillips screwdriver and turn that screw left------right to adjust the lamp output direction.....youll want to go down.... a little. Pull up to a garage door or wall and youll be able to see the beam to adjust it

Matt
09-21-2009, 10:36 AM
with the adjustment screw......LOL


I forget what the 05-07 looks like...but on top of the lamp you will see a white plastic screw head....use a phillips screwdriver and turn that screw left------right to adjust the lamp output direction.....youll want to go down.... a little. Pull up to a garage door or wall and youll be able to see the beam to adjust it

haha, can you tell I'm a noob :p:p

Awesome thanks!!

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 10:57 AM
sorry...didnt mean it that way...it was more for other members that may search for this later. Just wantyed to get it out there...so to say...LOL


and yeah......NEWB!

Matt
09-21-2009, 11:44 AM
sorry...didnt mean it that way...it was more for other members that may search for this later. Just wantyed to get it out there...so to say...LOL


and yeah......NEWB!

Oh no, I didn't take any offense, lol.

What is a good cut-off height to aim for (inches off ground)...?

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 11:51 AM
its more of an oval shape that a straight line matt... i can try taking a pic on a flat wall and measure the feet away

Matt
09-21-2009, 11:56 AM
its more of an oval shape that a straight line matt... i can try taking a pic on a flat wall and measure the feet away

Well I guess there will need to be two measurements right...?

1) distance from front bumper and wall (garage)
2) distance from ground to top of light cutoff (on wall or garage)

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 11:57 AM
exactly!!!

Matt
09-21-2009, 12:02 PM
Gotcha... if any of you guys can recommend a proper distance for the above two measurements that would be great! I guess I could always measure the factory halogens and then mimic that.

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 12:11 PM
that would be a great start! i forgot to do that:)

i just left mine where they are and haven't had any issues

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 12:12 PM
I would adjust it down a couple inches and go from there. You will get flashes if its too high.....

You will get flashed anyway.....but you kinda have to find the sweet spot on your own....

Matt
09-21-2009, 12:12 PM
that would be a great start! i forgot to do that:)

i just left mine where they are and haven't had any issues

hehe, hopefully I remember.

Matt
09-21-2009, 12:13 PM
I would adjust it down a couple inches and go from there. You will get flashes if its too high.....

You will get flashed anyway.....but you kinda have to find the sweet spot on your own....

Gotcha. Yeah I just don't want to be excessively blinding people.

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 12:15 PM
i also tested it afterwards by getting in my mom's 300 and then have her drive behind me...

Matt
09-21-2009, 12:19 PM
i also tested it afterwards by getting in my mom's 300 and then have her drive behind me...

...and?

Roughly how much adjusting did you end up doing?

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 12:21 PM
none! it was fine and didn't blind at all... mine is an 08 so you might wanna check by driving ur mom's G and let her drive behind you with your wk

Matt
09-21-2009, 12:22 PM
none! it was fine and didn't blind at all... mine is an 08 so you might wanna check by driving ur mom's G and let her drive behind you with your wk

Yeah, that's a good idea.. will do!

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 12:26 PM
no prob bro!

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 02:08 PM
total BS Irf! Be real now and dont lie.....LOL>

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 02:14 PM
LOLOL matt will tell the truth

Scottina06
09-21-2009, 02:16 PM
I've had HID's on my Jeep Irfy...I know the truth...they are blinding to oncoming traffic. Just being real dude. But believe me.....I loved them and denied it too. LOL

Chaoul1
09-21-2009, 03:31 PM
I've had HID's on my Jeep Irfy...I know the truth...they are blinding to oncoming traffic. Just being real dude. But believe me.....I loved them and denied it too. LOL

At school my friend she's like why are you lights so BRIGHT! Then she say's they were blinding me when you were behind me! I just laughed and went to class.