Congrats JeepGarage and its members!

[Scottina06]

We voiced our concerns and the SRT group "HEARD"! This goes to show you the power of the JeepGarage family! :thumbsup: We arent the oldest, largest or most connected forums...but they heard and respected what we had to say! Lets be respectful during the chat and show them what our family is all about!

[Lankness]

Good job helping pull this together Scott. I've been watching this space (lurking) for quite awhile - it will be really interesting to see how the conversations go.

[soontobesrt]

Nice! Excited for this chat, any date/time yet or TBA?

[QuickOne]

Soontobe...
Thursday night. 6pm. Engineers chat session thread there will a link to posted.

[tugboatchad]

I thought this is a JG exclusive? I just saw on several other forum boards the same link posted. However, I do think that it will be good to get that many more people involved. The draw back I see now is that it appears to be a SRT wide discussion, not just a Jeep platform discussion. I wonder if SRT has done this to take some focus/heat away from the Jeep discussion?

[Scottina06]

Yes...it looks like now other forums are picking it up. I guess they decided to go mainstream with this and discuss all SRT platforms. Its ok though...they have acknowledged to me that it was the voice of JeepGarage and its members that got this rolling down hill. My email went straight to the top and Ralph and the boys heard it loud and clear. JeepGarage really appeals to the SRt group due to its grassroots beginnings....by enthusiasts for enthusiasts. They see a forum funded by its members and not by google ads and annoying pop ups. Its not about the almighty dollar here and that is a good thing. Honestly...with our monthly page view stats etc. JeepGarage could make a ton of money...but thats not what we are about. JeepGarage is owned by Jeep guys...not some huge corporation where the bottom line is the most important. SRT/Jeep and ChryCo like that.

[Schleprock]

but the problem now is that with all of the other participants involved there is that extra added concern of muddy waters. I think we know that the group here could keep a cordial, well-flowing conversation going with Ralph/SRT Engineers. We can't say that now. Knowing how the internet works, I could see this turning into a ton of people (including many dolts) slamming an overabundance of questions at them, there being no way to get to them, and the interpersonal nature of getting our questions answered diminished.

[MikeH]

Would it be stupid to block new registrations until after the event?

[mlarco52]

Would it be stupid to block new registrations until after the event?

Weird I just posted a message looks like it didn't go through or has been deleted, LMAO.

Well like I said I agree with MikeH that we should block registration or at the least make it to members with less than 100 posts, and needing to be registered for more than 2 weeks can only post.

[BostonDMD]

Guys, if you read message #6 by Scott it clearly states that "they decided to go mainstream with this and discuss all SRT platforms" which to me means they opened it up to all SRT forums on the internet, yes even the red site. Therefore, blocking registration here won't really make any difference.......

Scott, if I have misunderstood your post please correct me......

[MikeH]

Ah, I thought this was going to be a "Jeep Garage" event.

[mlarco52]

JeepGarage got the ball rolling and got this event organized and put into action yes, however, they have made it public knowledge that it is a event covering the SRT brand and as so the other forums have also posted it on their site.

It has been (or will be) acknowledged that we at JeepGarage got it together and are given appropriate recognition for it.

[Schleprock]

the childish boys on the red site are going to ruin this. I simply don't go there anymore because of their immaturity. Only will in the future if I need WK1 technical help. In all of my years of internet car forums, I have literally never seen a model specific forum where previous gen owners got so butthurt and defensive when the next generation was introduced. I heard in the thread announcing this event to them one person already "warned" Ralph that the vehicle isn't liked and he'll be entering a hostile arena.

[BostonDMD]

^^^+1, unfortunately......

[mlarco52]

Yea we all saw the butthurt by the old owners on that site, a lot of them were simply frustrated that their vehicle was now considered the old model, so what? That doesn't make it any slower less aggressive than it already is. Consider it a compliment that Jeep found the Wk1 SRT to be such a success they just had to make a new model to keep the success of its predecessor going.

[Schleprock]

^^ I can only image the banter about the 13.7 1/4 mile time over there. They also forget that an overwhelming majority of WK1's arfe modded with at least a CAI and tune. Lets see a fair comparison once the WK2 has the same. In fact, I'll be able to provide you guys that as soon as it is available as I am keeping our WK1.

[BostonDMD]

^^ I can only image the banter about the 13.7 1/4 mile time over there. They also forget that an overwhelming majority of WK1's arfe modded with at least a CAI and tune. Lets see a fair comparison once the WK2 has the same. In fact, I'll be able to provide you guys that as soon as it is available as I am keeping our WK1.

Don't imagine it, it is real..... bashing going on as we speak.....

Myself and QuickOne will also do a comparo between his WK1 and my WK2 next spring on a real circuit.

I think his WK1 has an advantage as I don't think it is a entirely stock, nonetheless will be interesting to compare......all in good fun:)

[Scottina06]

Guys, if you read message #6 by Scott it clearly states that "they decided to go mainstream with this and discuss all SRT platforms" which to me means they opened it up to all SRT forums on the internet, yes even the red site. Therefore, blocking registration here won't really make any difference.......

Scott, if I have misunderstood your post please correct me......

You are exactly right Doc! Its ok....I have been promised an exclusive chat later in the winter when these badass rides are on the road!

Ah, I thought this was going to be a "Jeep Garage" event.


yeah....sorry Mike! Looks like the word got out pretty quick and other sites/platforms wanted in.

JeepGarage got the ball rolling and got this event organized and put into action yes, however, they have made it public knowledge that it is a event covering the SRT brand and as so the other forums have also posted it on their site.

It has been (or will be) acknowledged that we at JeepGarage got it together and are given appropriate recognition for it.


:thumbsup:

the childish boys on the red site are going to ruin this. I simply don't go there anymore because of their immaturity. Only will in the future if I need WK1 technical help. In all of my years of internet car forums, I have literally never seen a model specific forum where previous gen owners got so butthurt and defensive when the next generation was introduced. I heard in the thread announcing this event to them one person already "warned" Ralph that the vehicle isn't liked and he'll be entering a hostile arena.


wow......time for some growing up over there. I heard their admin was all butthurt as well over the chat.....LOL

Yea we all saw the butthurt by the old owners on that site, a lot of them were simply frustrated that their vehicle was now considered the old model, so what? That doesn't make it any slower less aggressive than it already is. Consider it a compliment that Jeep found the Wk1 SRT to be such a success they just had to make a new model to keep the success of its predecessor going.


its called "new model envy" its normal and happenss with all platforms and makes. They say the older model is so much faster...but theres a thread there right now of an owner running 13.8 in 50 degree weather......the normal person doesnt get the low 13's they claim the wk1 gets.....

^^ I can only image the banter about the 13.7 1/4 mile time over there. They also forget that an overwhelming majority of WK1's arfe modded with at least a CAI and tune. Lets see a fair comparison once the WK2 has the same. In fact, I'll be able to provide you guys that as soon as it is available as I am keeping our WK1.


that will be awesome!

Don't imagine it, it is real..... bashing going on as we speak.....

Myself and QuickOne will also do a comparo between his WK1 and my WK2 next spring on a real circuit.

I think his WK1 has an advantage as I don't think it is a entirely stock, nonetheless will be interesting to compare......all in good fun:)


the bashing doesnt suprise me.....they tried it here and no one cared....LOL.

I cant wait to see some of the comparisons by real members

[tugboatchad]

Yea we all saw the butthurt by the old owners on that site, a lot of them were simply frustrated that their vehicle was now considered the old model, so what? That doesn't make it any slower less aggressive than it already is. Consider it a compliment that Jeep found the Wk1 SRT to be such a success they just had to make a new model to keep the success of its predecessor going.

Thanks Bro!!! I as a gen. 1 owner do feel proud they made another. I was also screaming quite loud when they said no more SRT Jeeps, so you can imagine how elated I was when they did make them again. I will have both in my garage, but not until the mid cycle refresh and/or the price is agreeable. Even if it means waiting until '15 for a nice used one.

[tugboatchad]

^^ I can only image the banter about the 13.7 1/4 mile time over there. They also forget that an overwhelming majority of WK1's arfe modded with at least a CAI and tune. Lets see a fair comparison once the WK2 has the same. In fact, I'll be able to provide you guys that as soon as it is available as I am keeping our WK1.

Schleppy, I've got time slips. Bone stock, no nothing, 13.2 all day long. Only the hard core die hard track addicts are mocking it. You act as if every WK 1 owner does nothing but race theirs. In fact their is only a handful of members there who do track them. Even a lot of heavily modded guys only go to the track to get a slip to say they have. In fact, I'm the ONLY Jeep owner on any site that I know of that races for points, bracket racing, not a slip. I race in point series when I'm off the boat and I race in car club leagues. When I'm not racing for a pt. series Im at the track practicing for it. I don't know if this changes your perception of "All" wk1 owners or your verbage of us, but I hope you at least take it into consideration.

[Yaccster]

Can I say that I'm disappointed that the chat site isn't compatible with the iPad?!

OOPS, spoke too soon looks like there IS an App for that: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coveritlive-iphone/id353226021?mt=8

[Schleprock]

Schleppy, I've got time slips. Bone stock, no nothing, 13.2 all day long. Only the hard core die hard track addicts are mocking it. You act as if every WK 1 owner does nothing but race theirs. In fact their is only a handful of members there who do track them. Even a lot of heavily modded guys only go to the track to get a slip to say they have. In fact, I'm the ONLY Jeep owner on any site that I know of that races for points, bracket racing, not a slip. I race in point series when I'm off the boat and I race in car club leagues. When I'm not racing for a pt. series Im at the track practicing for it. I don't know if this changes your perception of "All" wk1 owners or your verbage of us, but I hope you at least take it into consideration.
You seem to have a guilty conscience for some reason, I do not know why. My comment you quoted was based on owners at the red site who have to consistently bash the WK2 SRT8 on its looks, performance, price. If you don't fall in to that group, then I have no issues. Remember, I own a WK1 SRT8 as well.

[Scottina06]

compatibilty was one of my concerns with ChryCo Comm.

[tugboatchad]

You seem to have a guilty conscience for some reason, I do not know why. My comment you quoted was based on owners at the red site who have to consistently bash the WK2 SRT8 on its looks, performance, price. If you don't fall in to that group, then I have no issues. Remember, I own a WK1 SRT8 as well.

Which is why you should know not all wk1 owners hate the new platform, or are jerks about it. I think every regular gen 1 owner on this forum likes them as well. Not a lot of negative feed back on them here anyway. As for the red site, as you I'm sure noticed it is a core group of guys who don't like them. Considering the 1000's of members they have and the 10-12 who don't like them, that's actually a very decent ratio. There are some very die hard gen 2 soon to be owners who are taking the heat quite well over there. I have got to hand it to those guys for taking all the crap they do and keeping their chins up and proud.

As for my guilty conscience, not one bit. You seem to have implications that need airing. Feel free if there is something you would like to get out there. No reason to beat a bush when you can charge through it.

[Schleprock]

Which is why you should know not all wk1 owners hate the new platform, or are jerks about it. I think every regular gen 1 owner on this forum likes them as well. Not a lot of negative feed back on them here anyway. As for the red site, as you I'm sure noticed it is a core group of guys who don't like them. Considering the 1000's of members they have and the 10-12 who don't like them, that's actually a very decent ratio. There are some very die hard gen 2 soon to be owners who are taking the heat quite well over there. I have got to hand it to those guys for taking all the crap they do and keeping their chins up and proud.

As for my guilty conscience, not one bit. You seem to have implications that need airing. Feel free if there is something you would like to get out there. No reason to beat a bush when you can charge through it.
I honestly have no idea what you're digging for. And I don't know why you keep implying I don't like WK1 owners. I made a statement that I think the red site is terrible now, that's my opinion. I don't care enough to analyze each member or how many, I just go by what gets posted the most and I have to read. The WK2 section there is worthless to try and have an intelligent conversation in.

I'm happy spending time here and reading/posting.

[mlarco52]

^^ I can only image the banter about the 13.7 1/4 mile time over there. They also forget that an overwhelming majority of WK1's arfe modded with at least a CAI and tune. Lets see a fair comparison once the WK2 has the same. In fact, I'll be able to provide you guys that as soon as it is available as I am keeping our WK1.

Well you were right, seems like more hate or "wtfs" on the red site about the 13.7 time ran. Wow big deal one bad run, lol. No one seems to acknowledge that the testers seem to keep getting better and better numbers, started at a 5.1 to a 4.8 to a 4.6 in the 0-60.

[Scottina06]

I never thought I would say that JeepGarage is about 100x more mature than the red site.....considering the ages of the members. Theres still guys there I respect...but its things like this that bring forums down....in a hurry.

[QuickOne]

I am curious to find out if anyone of the testers were told that they could take the traction control all the way off.
I will be trying it on my test drive.
On another sad note, I will not be able to partake in this great opportunity with the chat. I have prior commitments that won't allow me to be nose deep in the computer.
Can't wait to read some interesting transcripts.
Thanks again Jeep Garage and said moderators/owners!