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mzh29
09-20-2009, 05:37 AM
Well this morning I headed out to my favorite fishing spot, that also happens to have a flat stretch of strait away and the speed liimit is 50mph. It was 5:45 in the morning so there was NO traffic. It was nice to finally have some cool temps, 47 degrees. Now i've tested my 0-60 with superchips many many times on this same stretch and was consistenly 7.2-7.4. This morning though was the first time it was actually below 50 degrees. Yesterday i had the oil changed, which i know does nothing for performance, but i also had the differential fluid changed. The tech at the shop said the oil was really bad, black and had some metal shavings in it, never been done before. Right away i could feel some difference when i left the shop, maybe in my head, but i don't think so. Before the fluid change, it kind of bogged off the line a little, doesn't do it now. Well anyways here's what i ran this morning

0-40...3.54
0-50...5.04
0-60...6.84!

I know some will say superchips is inaccurate, or call bs on my 4.7 running sub 7 second 0-60 with just the programmer, exhaust, and intake, but i know it's legit. It made up for the fact that i only caught one little smallie.

Dylans3960ccs
09-20-2009, 07:44 AM
Wow, I think Scott is shaking in his boots lol.

Chaoul1
09-20-2009, 07:58 AM
Nice Matt!

blackpepper
09-20-2009, 08:26 AM
Siiick!

mzh29
09-20-2009, 09:03 AM
I am positive, scott is NOT shaking in his boots. He's still got me by more than a second, and it's not even tuned right. Thanks guys, it's no hemi, but it's definently faster than the day i bought it!

Megatron
09-20-2009, 09:14 AM
I am positive, scott is NOT shaking in his boots. He's still got me by more than a second, and it's not even tuned right. Thanks guys, it's no hemi, but it's definently faster than the day i bought it!

Glad to hear ya happy! The wheelskins is what gave you the extra boost!:cool::thumbsup:

blackpepper
09-20-2009, 09:43 AM
I am positive, scott is NOT shaking in his boots. He's still got me by more than a second, and it's not even tuned right. Thanks guys, it's no hemi, but it's definently faster than the day i bought it!

That's all that matters! :thumbsup:

HEMIBeast
09-20-2009, 09:47 AM
Nice.. Added power always feels good.

mzh29
09-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Glad to hear ya happy! The wheelskins is what gave you the extra boost!:cool::thumbsup:


HAHA, they've been sitting in my basement for a couple months.

Megatron
09-20-2009, 10:15 AM
HAHA, they've been sitting in my basement for a couple months.

OH! Want to sell them to me? I could use their power boost :cool:

scjeep4.7HO
09-20-2009, 12:43 PM
nice times man.

Mike_Levy
09-20-2009, 01:08 PM
Mine runs 3.59 on the DashHawk, 3.67 on the Trinity.

BUBBADOG
09-20-2009, 01:21 PM
Nice job bro...As long as u feel good about your time who cares what others think ....good job:thumbsup:

Scottina06
09-20-2009, 01:24 PM
thats an awesome time for your mods

mzh29
09-20-2009, 03:01 PM
Mine runs 3.59 on the DashHawk, 3.67 on the Trinity.

Your grand cherokee is faster than mine. I'm doin about 40 when you're at 60.

justa4banger
09-20-2009, 09:35 PM
Did you have a good dump the morning of the run... lighter weight will make the 0-60 fatser LOL

Cool run times... i can't wait to get back to my GC and then try out the dashhawk 0-60 ... I knows it definitely faster than it was stock ......TRQ FTMFW

B.P.O.D
09-21-2009, 09:03 AM
awesome matt!!!

i caught a 3-8sm the other day:)

mzh29
09-21-2009, 12:21 PM
awesome matt!!!

i caught a 3-8sm the other day:)


Sweet Irf! I couldn't catch a cold yesterday morning

mzh29
09-21-2009, 12:22 PM
Did you have a good dump the morning of the run... lighter weight will make the 0-60 fatser LOL

Cool run times... i can't wait to get back to my GC and then try out the dashhawk 0-60 ... I knows it definitely faster than it was stock ......TRQ FTMFW


Hahahaha, no....I wait until i get to the woods to take a shit.

pjs1965
09-21-2009, 01:49 PM
Mine runs 3.59 on the DashHawk, 3.67 on the Trinity.

Not fair.

Mike_Levy
09-21-2009, 02:23 PM
Not fair.

Well not against his. Its fair against yours though.:p

pjs1965
09-21-2009, 02:25 PM
Well not against his. Its fair against yours though.:p

:slapfight: I can beat you. . . . with 2 of your tires slashed. You working tonight?

dreamer1213
09-21-2009, 03:47 PM
That is some nice times for sure!! I need to get my hands on a SuperChips for the ol' WJ one of these days... :rolleyes:

Mike_Levy
09-21-2009, 11:55 PM
You working tonight?

Yep I did. I work M-F usually.

KidFresh5.7
10-09-2009, 08:23 PM
I always hear srt8's 0-60 in under 5 in all tractions, does anyone with one know exactly how far under? like 4.8? I know with all my mods i've run straight up with a couple stock ones, not that theres really many stock-ish parts on an srt8

m4xm1l10n
10-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Mine does 4.2-4.6 Sec on 60-75 degree weather , but i pulled a 3.9 once on a 50 degree weather . G-TECHPRO-SS is the tool i use . I used to pull lower numbers with Dashhawk which was exaggerating numbers :eek:

pjs1965
10-09-2009, 08:51 PM
I always hear srt8's 0-60 in under 5 in all tractions, does anyone with one know exactly how far under? like 4.8? I know with all my mods i've run straight up with a couple stock ones, not that theres really many stock-ish parts on an srt8

Completely stock: my best is 4.6 sec. On most days 4.8 is normal. I've pulled a 4.9 on a wet street (not raining at the time). And yeah, I've had the occasional 5+ 0-60 on hot summer days.

I've seen 3.7 sec 0-60 on some modded SRT8s (there's a few vids on YouTube of this). I'm sure Mike can attest to high 3s too. Oh and don't ask Junior what he's running -- he's confessed to a 3.7 sec 0-60 with 4 people in his.

HEMIBeast
10-09-2009, 08:53 PM
I think Paul (youngmedic) has hit 3.5 0-60.

Mike_Levy
10-09-2009, 11:56 PM
I did a 3.54 earlier this week, and backed it up with a pair of 3.59s.

m4xm1l10n
10-10-2009, 08:56 PM
Lol I pulled a 4.6 yesterday in poring rain 3 runs back to back :eek:

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 09:44 AM
so go G-TECH over DashHawk? what will that run me?

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 09:45 AM
Im really curious to see what I can actually put down

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 09:46 AM
With your mods, I would say high 6's, low 7's.

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 04:02 PM
what do you run?

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 04:05 PM
what do you run?

Mid-high 5's I would say. Thats just a guess but it makes sense with my track times.

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 04:06 PM
isnt dead stock 7.1? it looks like i've done pretty much everything you have

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Please take no offense when I say this but a Jet Chip is a waste of 300 bucks.

The PCM re-learns the stock form after a while.


Also you got heavier rims and bigger tires. They will slow you down.

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 04:12 PM
Then dont take offense when i say i think i'm right there with you if not looking at you in the rear view. The bigger wheels put it down infinitely better than stock, the chip seems to work, all the suspension helps, I don't know that I'd come anywhere close to a stock low 7's with all the shit ive done
Please take no offense when I say this but a Jet Chip is a waste of 300 bucks.

The PCM re-learns the stock form after a while.


Also you got heavier rims and bigger tires. They will slow you down.

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 04:14 PM
Then dont take offense when i say i think i'm right there with you if not looking at you in the rear view. The bigger wheels put it down infinitely better than stock, the chip seems to work, all the suspension helps, I don't know that I'd come anywhere close to a stock low 7's with all the shit ive done

No offense taken.


Go to a local dragstrip, run the Jeep and report back.

KidFresh5.7
10-11-2009, 04:15 PM
fair enough, In the spring you will have your report

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 04:20 PM
fair enough, In the spring you will have your report

Alright but I will guarantee you, with those mods you will be running in the 14.8 and higher range.



Please dont think its just my opinion and that I am saying my 5.7L Jeep, is the fastest.

I hope others come in here and state theirs.

HEMIBeast
10-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Get some headers and a Flyin Ryan ported throttle body. The headers wont do anything for your 0-60 but your mid and top end. The tb should be noticable throughout.

Scottina06
10-11-2009, 04:28 PM
the Jet chip would kill ya Marcus......sorry to say...but you wasted your money bro. Ya got a few things going againt ya...wheels and tune.

Robert Palmer
10-11-2009, 04:28 PM
Oh and BTW Tman (Jeremy) has a 08 5.7 with a AirAid, Magnaflow exhaust and a CMR tune, and his is still .5-.7 slower than me.

m4xm1l10n
10-11-2009, 04:45 PM
Jet Chip = POOP , CACA , ETC !!! Waist of money

Got a real 0-60 today at the track using the Gtech ,look at the numbers .

GTECHPRO ON THIS RUN 12.785@ 106.45 1.788 60' 0-60 4.1 sec !!! Almost There .

vs time slip

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5888/run1.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/run1.jpg/)

Mike_Levy
10-11-2009, 09:02 PM
I do my testing with the DashHawk and Trinity. The Trinity generally runs a bit slower, which is weird since they both read from the same CAN Bus. Can't say for sure which is more accurate.

m4xm1l10n
10-12-2009, 05:59 AM
I do my testing with the DashHawk and Trinity. The Trinity generally runs a bit slower, which is weird since they both read from the same CAN Bus. Can't say for sure which is more accurate.

Do you have one of you track runs VS Dashhawk , Trinity to compare results ?

KidFresh5.7
10-12-2009, 06:12 AM
I'm not saying its as fast as you, but i highly doubt your a second and a half faster to 60, and you all seem to be missing my main point, i dont care what you run, im saying from everything ive seen 7.1 is stock on a 5.7l hemi jeep, unless im wrong about that, explain to me how i run a stock time.

KidFresh5.7
10-12-2009, 06:15 AM
I also dont think thats out of line with giving the srt8 a car with 90 more hp stock and 30lb/ft of torque 2.5 seconds off a 60 time! thats quite a slowdown so i dont think my 7.1 is too low.

06HemiLtd
10-12-2009, 06:31 AM
this is more like 0-80 but i figured i'd post it. http://s923.photobucket.com/albums/ad72/stevegoff/?action=view&current=0-80.flv i was leaving my son's preschool so i couldn't get on it too much. i love the sound of the hemi though

Robert Palmer
10-12-2009, 08:47 AM
I'm not saying its as fast as you, but i highly doubt your a second and a half faster to 60, and you all seem to be missing my main point, i dont care what you run, im saying from everything ive seen 7.1 is stock on a 5.7l hemi jeep, unless im wrong about that, explain to me how i run a stock time.

Ok the Jet chip like I said re-learns the stock form after a while. Also your wheels and tires are heavier and wider than stock form. Heavier and wider wheels will slow you down.

Next is the AirAid, while it does sound sweet, it is a hot air intake. It is above 10-20 degrees than a Bwoody CAI. Cooler temps equal a happier/faster Jeep.

Next up is your exhaust, the magnaflow catback is not a straight through, free flowing exhaust. Thats going to hold you back a little.

Thats my explanation on how you will run in the high 6's-low 7's.

KidFresh5.7
10-12-2009, 09:38 AM
what does anyone think is the ideal wheel/tire combo for speed? Jeep's dont really need all the rubber that gets put on stock if your staying on pavement, so something lower profile than stock? I saw the tuners adjust for tire size

KidFresh5.7
10-12-2009, 09:43 AM
I have an extra set of 18's that I want to turn into a setup for the strip

mzh29
10-12-2009, 05:23 PM
Dude if the hemi does 0-60 in the high six low sevens, that means that I could concievably hang with a stocker! I would have to give myself a huge pat on the back if that ever happens for my 4.7. I know, I know, you srt guys laugh with your 4-3.5 second times.

pjs1965
10-12-2009, 07:55 PM
I don't compare the SRT8 with the other Jeeps. It's just not right. I had a HEMI Limited before the SRT8 and I didn't even KNOW I could mod it. Boy did I miss out.

Tim@NCTSLLC
10-12-2009, 10:05 PM
I just clicked off a 4.38 second 0-60mph in my turbocharged 5.7 Hemi Cherokee. My previous best was a 4.76 0-60mph. Pulling fuse #17 makes a world of difference.

HEMIBeast
10-12-2009, 10:18 PM
That is an impressive 0-60 Tim.

m4xm1l10n
10-12-2009, 11:16 PM
I just clicked off a 4.38 second 0-60mph in my turbocharged 5.7 Hemi Cherokee. My previous best was a 4.76 0-60mph. Pulling fuse #17 makes a world of difference.


WOW 4.32 sec !!!!! should you be running a lower 1/4 mile # , I mean 13.84 seams high for a car running 0-60 in 4.32 :confused: why are slowing down up top ?

m4xm1l10n
10-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Here is video of me vs a stock 2010 SRT8 , His 0-60 on that run was 4.6 using his dash AVIC , So what would mine be on that run realistically :confused:

http://video.cardomain.com/VideoPlayer.aspx?id=712720

FlyinRyan
10-12-2009, 11:33 PM
Nice job bro...As long as u feel good about your time who cares what others think ....good job:thumbsup:

Thats what all the slow people say......

FlyinRyan
10-12-2009, 11:45 PM
I'm not saying its as fast as you, but i highly doubt your a second and a half faster to 60, and you all seem to be missing my main point, i dont care what you run, im saying from everything ive seen 7.1 is stock on a 5.7l hemi jeep, unless im wrong about that, explain to me how i run a stock time.

HMMMM..... You say you're not saying it's as fast as Elvis's, yet you say below...
Then dont take offense when i say i think i'm right there with you if not looking at you in the rear view . The bigger wheels put it down infinitely better than stock, the chip seems to work, all the suspension helps, I don't know that I'd come anywhere close to a stock low 7's with all the shit ive done

:lol: Please explain how bigger wheels "put it down" better than stock, if you were correct my lifted WJ might be a 13 second vehicle!


I also dont think thats out of line with giving the srt8 a car with 90 more hp stock and 30lb/ft of torque 2.5 seconds off a 60 time! thats quite a slowdown so i dont think my 7.1 is too low.


Bottom line, go to the track. The BS stops when the light tree drops...

HEMIBeast
10-13-2009, 12:04 AM
Thats what all the slow people say......

lol

Tim@NCTSLLC
10-13-2009, 04:10 AM
WOW 4.32 sec !!!!! should you be running a lower 1/4 mile # , I mean 13.84 seams high for a car running 0-60 in 4.32 :confused: why are slowing down up top ?

Actually it was being slow on the bottom end. Torque Management was killing it.

I have not been back to the track to run with the ABS fuse pulled which netted the new 4.38 time.

Pulling that fuse knocked .4 seconds off my previous best 0-60 mph time.

When I go back to the track, I should see a very low 13, or maybe a pinch better, and 104 to 105 mph now.

Sometime this week gonna try to get back to the track.

HEMIBeast
10-13-2009, 08:09 AM
I cant wait to hear the results.

KidFresh5.7
10-13-2009, 09:01 AM
yeah put it down better, the same reason srt8's have 10'' wheels in the back n lambos have 12'', a wider tire grabs the ground better and goes, my "putting it down", the stock ones felt like shit when i punched it off the line, I'm not saying mudders will run pro-mod times

m4xm1l10n
10-13-2009, 09:05 AM
Actually it was being slow on the bottom end. Torque Management was killing it.

I have not been back to the track to run with the ABS fuse pulled which netted the new 4.38 time.

Pulling that fuse knocked .4 seconds off my previous best 0-60 mph time.

When I go back to the track, I should see a very low 13, or maybe a pinch better, and 104 to 105 mph now.

Sometime this week gonna try to get back to the track.

Curious to see results as well , what is your 60' looks like ?

Tim@NCTSLLC
10-13-2009, 11:02 AM
Curious to see results as well , what is your 60' looks like ?

Previous 60 ft was between 2.25 and 2.30, traction control was killing it. I expect now I should be able to get a 1.80 or so.

Damn cold here right now, Norwalk has nothing except an open race this Friday then closing down after a big haloween race.

Milan Michigan is open till mid November, but a 2 hour drive one way. Not sure if they will be running this week as it is mid 40's in the day and near freezing at night.

LTrainGC
10-13-2009, 11:30 AM
yeah put it down better, the same reason srt8's have 10'' wheels in the back n lambos have 12'', a wider tire grabs the ground better and goes, my "putting it down", the stock ones felt like shit when i punched it off the line, I'm not saying mudders will run pro-mod times

It's not so much your tires keeping you slow, but those heavy ass rims. Takes more power to get them rolling, and keep them rolling.

A wide tire is good to get traction, but you gotta have a lightweight wheel. The SRT rims are lightweight aluminum IIRC.


It's nice and cool out here today... I'll do a couple 0-60's on my way home from work with the superchips.

mzh29
10-13-2009, 12:04 PM
I just clicked off a 4.38 second 0-60mph in my turbocharged 5.7 Hemi Cherokee. My previous best was a 4.76 0-60mph. Pulling fuse #17 makes a world of difference.

What does fuse #17 do?

Scottina06
10-13-2009, 12:52 PM
disables abs, esp......and a couple other things

m4xm1l10n
10-13-2009, 01:07 PM
Previous 60 ft was between 2.25 and 2.30, traction control was killing it. I expect now I should be able to get a 1.80 or so.

Damn cold here right now, Norwalk has nothing except an open race this Friday then closing down after a big haloween race.

Milan Michigan is open till mid November, but a 2 hour drive one way. Not sure if they will be running this week as it is mid 40's in the day and near freezing at night.


WOW you can literally spank me :eek:

Tim@NCTSLLC
10-13-2009, 01:50 PM
WOW you can literally spank me :eek:

Well not so sure of that just yet! Goal is to take the all stock 5.7 with the bolt on turbo at low boost to run with or slightly better than a stock SRT-8 Cherokee.

I am pretty close right now, the speed is there, just need to get the 60ft and ET down a bit and I will be there.

The ABS fuse looks like it will do it based on what I saw last night, just need to get verification.

May go make a 1/4 mile run tonight on the dashhawk to see what it comes up with, they are within a +/-.1 from all the data I have seen.

When I launched last night it was instant boost off the line and it pulled like a freight train.

LTrainGC
10-13-2009, 02:32 PM
Just got home... did 2 0-60 runs, first one was slightly uphill, second one was slightly downhill. Had 3/4 tank of gas, subs in the back, turn off ESP, no autostick. Ambient conditons - truck was fully warmed up, 73 degrees outside and about 65% humidity, 800 feet above sea level. Average time of 6.27 seconds. Not too bad for the canned 91 tune with the superchips I don't think.

HEMIBeast
10-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Those times arent bad at all.

LTrainGC
10-13-2009, 03:05 PM
There about to be a bit slower too... lift + 32's are going to help in the go fast department lol.

HEMIBeast
10-13-2009, 03:27 PM
haha lol.. Sending pm your way!

mzh29
10-13-2009, 04:33 PM
IS that the same number fuse on the 4.7? The #17 fuse on mine says its for the rear glass i believe.

Tim@NCTSLLC
10-13-2009, 05:08 PM
IS that the same number fuse on the 4.7? The #17 fuse on mine says its for the rear glass i believe.

Look in your manual under fuses, and find the one that says ABS Pump. It should be a pink 30amp cavity fuse (big, not a mini fuse).

mzh29
10-13-2009, 06:08 PM
Does it cause anything to go off on the dash? abs? check engine?

KidFresh5.7
10-14-2009, 09:50 AM
Thanks for the response, I did some looking, srt8cherokee posts say the stock srt8 rims are:
Wheels = Front , 36.2 lbs. Back, 37.6 lbs.
Tires = Front, 36 lbs. Back, 40 lbs.

Can anyone with one an srt8 confirm this? It doesnt make me feel as bad about my setup being 32 lbs rims with 34 lbs tires

[QUOTE=LTrainGC;78256]It's not so much your tires keeping you slow, but those heavy ass rims. Takes more power to get them rolling, and keep them rolling.

A wide tire is good to get traction, but you gotta have a lightweight wheel. The SRT rims are lightweight aluminum IIRC.

Joe in PA
10-14-2009, 10:26 AM
Does it cause anything to go off on the dash? abs? check engine?
Yes it will light the dash lamps as the systems are no longer functional.

pjs1965
10-14-2009, 10:29 AM
When comparing the wheels and tires between SRT8 Jeeps and 5.7 HEMI Jeeps, just keep in mind that the SRT8 wheel/tire combo is MUCH wider by comparison with little weight penalty.


Front
SRT8 20” x 9” with Goodyear RS-A runflat 255/45/ZR20 tires
17" x 7.5" with P245/65R17 Goodyear Fortera all-terrain tires
18" x 7.5" with Goodyear Wrangler black sidewall BSW all-terrain P245/60R18 tires
Rear
SRT8 20" x 10" with Goodyear RS-A runflat 285/40/ZR20 tires
17" x 7.5" with P245/65R17 Goodyear Fortera all-terrain tires
18" x 7.5" with Goodyear Wrangler black sidewall BSW all-terrain P245/60R18 tires

I don't have the weight differences between the various 17x7.5 wheels compared to the 18's or the 20's.

KidFresh5.7
10-14-2009, 10:36 AM
I guess then a better question is does anyone know what a stock jeep 17x7.5'' wheel weighs?

KidFresh5.7
10-14-2009, 10:38 AM
i think the next set of tires i put on mine will be 255/45 all around, I don't really like the 275/45's I have now