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transam
09-13-2011, 10:22 AM
Here's an excerpt from an article about the Frankfurt auto show.
"Chrysler's Jeep brand launched its most powerful Jeep vehicle ever, the Grand Cherokee SRT8. SRT stands for street and racing technology and the limited edition Cherokee will achieve 0-100 kilometers per hour (0-60 mph) in 4.8 seconds -- and hit a top speed of 255 kilometers per hour (158 mph).
Jeep CEO Michael Manley said all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers."
Here's the link to the article if needed.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Carmakers-show-off-in-apf-3553504462.html?x=0
Scottina06
09-13-2011, 10:27 AM
doesnt suprise me.....
barho
09-13-2011, 10:28 AM
Here's an excerpt from an article about the Frankfurt auto show.
"Chrysler's Jeep brand launched its most powerful Jeep vehicle ever, the Grand Cherokee SRT8. SRT stands for street and racing technology and the limited edition Cherokee will achieve 0-100 kilometers per hour (0-60 mph) in 4.8 seconds -- and hit a top speed of 255 kilometers per hour (158 mph).
Jeep CEO Michael Manley said all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers."
Here's the link to the article if needed.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Carmakers-show-off-in-apf-3553504462.html?x=0
4000 now? So now 800 more than the previous gen at it's highest run. Quite the limited addition :rolleyes:
GreggSRT8
09-13-2011, 10:34 AM
I thought they said only 3,800 would be built?
QuickOne
09-13-2011, 10:36 AM
4000 now? So now 800 more than the previous gen at it's highest run. Quite the limited addition :rolleyes:
In what automotive world do you live in that 4000 units is not a limited production?
transam
09-13-2011, 10:36 AM
Milous states 3800 for the US market with undetermined amounts for outside markets.
soontobesrt
09-13-2011, 10:41 AM
This is no surprise to me, nice truck and apparantly 4000 people thought at a nice enough price :D
Thats all that really matters from a business standpoint, this will allow them to keep pushing forward with the Jeeps and continue having success aka putting out nice autos.
Marginally high the SRT8 is priced sure, but its heads and tails above anything else the company offers, regardless of what anyone "thinks". Fact is its better, as to how much $$$ worth better, well that has clearly varied. I will say the majority on here dont think $10k better so clearly this wasn't aimed at GEN1 owners.
Hopefully we get enough on this forum so we can actually see it and how it progresses throughout its life. Cant wait till the PCM is broken and we can really see what this things capable of :thumbsup:
barho
09-13-2011, 10:42 AM
In what automotive world do you live in that 4000 units is not a limited production?
That's not the point. The point is one of the reasons Chrysler gave for the large increase in price was the limited production. The previous gen had far less units produced (if the 4000 units for 2012 is correct, about 20% less at it's height).
barho
09-13-2011, 10:43 AM
Also, the statement "all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers" does NOT mean that all 4,000 units are ordered units from individuals.
BOYCHIKS
09-13-2011, 10:46 AM
This is no surprise to me, nice truck and apparantly 4000 people thought at a nice enough price :D
Thats all that really matters from a business standpoint, this will allow them to keep pushing forward with the Jeeps and continue having success aka putting out nice autos.
Marginally high the SRT8 is priced sure, but its heads and tails above anything else the company offers, regardless of what anyone "thinks". Fact is its better, as to how much $$$ worth better, well that has clearly varied. I will say the majority on here dont think $10k better so clearly this wasn't aimed at GEN1 owners.
Hopefully we get enough on this forum so we can actually see it and how it progresses throughout its life. Cant wait till the PCM is broken and we can really see what this things capable of :thumbsup:
You couldn't have said that any better. :thumbsup:
Schleprock
09-13-2011, 10:56 AM
4000 now? So now 800 more than the previous gen at it's highest run. Quite the limited addition :rolleyes:
That's not the point. The point is one of the reasons Chrysler gave for the large increase in price was the limited production. The previous gen had far less units produced (if the 4000 units for 2012 is correct, about 20% less at it's height).
Also, the statement "all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers" does NOT mean that all 4,000 units are ordered units from individuals.
your posts are becoming very very annoying. Please go to the red site and do your constant complaining with the rest of them.
And BTW, Jeep SELLS their vehicles to dealers. So if all 4,000 units are gone to dealers, then Jeep has done their business. Dealerships are privately owned and sell the vehicle to the customer.
QuickOne
09-13-2011, 11:10 AM
That's not the point. The point is one of the reasons Chrysler gave for the large increase in price was the limited production. The previous gen had far less units produced (if the 4000 units for 2012 is correct, about 20% less at it's height).
Those #s of WK's produced weren't production limitations, but sales limitations. Totally different animal and 100% why we saw $6,000 cash rebates from Jeep on those.
And the parts on the Jeep weren't exclusive to the WKSRT8. It was the standard Jeep, with plastic added, a borrowed transfer case, an engine that was not much different than the 5.7, (minus few parts changes) and a set of brakes.
barho
09-13-2011, 11:42 AM
your posts are becoming very very annoying. Please go to the red site and do your constant complaining with the rest of them.
And BTW, Jeep SELLS their vehicles to dealers. So if all 4,000 units are gone to dealers, then Jeep has done their business. Dealerships are privately owned and sell the vehicle to the customer.
I'd expect someone who owns a GTO, a 2010 GC SRT and has ordered a 2012 SRT to be very VERY annoyed by my posts. The truth that the price is too high hurts to those that waste money on such things.
I am glad all 4,000 units were sold to dealers (is it 4,000 or 3,800 Chrysler??). Gonna be sitting on lots for quite some time.
NHman
09-13-2011, 11:58 AM
I'd expect someone who owns a GTO, a 2010 GC SRT and has ordered a 2012 SRT to be very VERY annoyed by my posts. The truth that the price is too high hurts to those that waste money on such things.
I am glad all 4,000 units were sold to dealers (is it 4,000 or 3,800 Chrysler??). Gonna be sitting on lots for quite some time.
bho, perhaps you will be proven correct. However Chryco could also be attracting a new customer base similar to those new owners of Overland/Summits that want an X5M or Cayenne Turbo but want to be fiscally conservative and opt for the SRT8. Certainly there will be existing WK1 owners upgrading but if Chryco is able to attract new customers it would be a sales success.
The bigger question is retaining the customer base. This will be through vehicle history, warranty (needs improvement for SRT8) and dealer service.
I have a MY11 Overland but might consider upgrading in the future to a SRT8.
Regards,
NHman
Schleprock
09-13-2011, 12:01 PM
I'd expect someone who owns a GTO, a 2010 GC SRT and has ordered a 2012 SRT to be very VERY annoyed by my posts. The truth that the price is too high hurts to those that waste money on such things.
I am glad all 4,000 units were sold to dealers (is it 4,000 or 3,800 Chrysler??). Gonna be sitting on lots for quite some time.
http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/052011/haters-dance.gif
barho
09-13-2011, 12:03 PM
bho, perhaps you will be proven correct. However Chryco could also be attracting a new customer base similar to those new owners of Overland/Summits that want an X5M or Cayenne Turbo but want to be fiscally conservative and opt for the SRT8. Certainly there will be existing WK1 owners upgrading but if Chryco is able to attract new customers it would be a sales success.
The bigger question is retaining the customer base. This will be through vehicle history, warranty (needs improvement for SRT8) and dealer service.
I have a MY11 Overland but might consider upgrading in the future to a SRT8.
Regards,
NHman
Well, we'll soon find out.
Hope it goes well for them and they sell 4,000 units each year for the rest of the WK2 run. That would mean 20,000 total units by the end of the wk2 run in 2016. When you look at the fact that the wk1 SRT had a total production of 11,717 from 2005-2010, that would mean I should be able to find a nice used one for a fraction of the cost to buy new :thumbsup:
For example, on cars.com I see there are 20 used WK1 SRTs for sale within 50 miles of me. There are 32 used Overlands (all Years) within 50 miles of me. LOL
Milous
09-13-2011, 12:17 PM
And the parts on the Jeep weren't exclusive to the WKSRT8. It was the standard Jeep, with plastic added, a borrowed transfer case, an engine that was not much different than the 5.7, (minus few parts changes) and a set of brakes.
1. ???? How is the WK2 any different, it was also developed from the non-SRT models.
2. A borrowed transfer case?
"One part of the equation was to create a new transfer case, combining housing components from two existing units with the upgrades needed to make it SRT-capable."
3. An engine that was not much different than the 5.7, (minus few parts changes)
Say what? A "few" parts changes?
"Added more cubic inches, increased the compression ratio, redesigned the cylinder head, intake and exhaust systems...compression ratio was also increased to 10.3:1 from 9.6:1...engine breathing was increased with new higher-flow cylinder heads, a specially designed intake manifold and fresh air induction system, and exhaust headers with individual tubes encased in a stainless steel shell...larger-diameter valves and reshaped ports in the heads allow for maximized air flow... the intake manifold was designed with larger-diameter and shorter runners for higher-speed tuning. Exhaust is routed through a large-diameter (2.75-inch vs. 2.5-inch) exhaust system with four-inch chrome tips...performance-oriented camshaft profiles were developed to allow more air in and out of the cylinders...the high-performance SRT 6.1-liter HEMI is strengthened with redesigned components, including a reinforced engine block, forged steel crankshaft, high-strength powdered-metal connecting rods, floating-pin pistons (cooled by oil squirters), and an oil pan modified to manage oil return to the pan sump at high engine speeds..."
Just like with the WK2, there are a lot of other changes on the WK1 vs the non SRT models.
Scottina06
09-13-2011, 12:37 PM
Well, we'll soon find out.
Hope it goes well for them and they sell 4,000 units each year for the rest of the WK2 run. That would mean 20,000 total units by the end of the wk2 run in 2016. When you look at the fact that the wk1 SRT had a total production of 11,717 from 2005-2010, that would mean I should be able to find a nice used one for a fraction of the cost to buy new :thumbsup:
For example, on cars.com I see there are 20 used WK1 SRTs for sale within 50 miles of me. There are 32 used Overlands (all Years) within 50 miles of me. LOL
dont you mean 500 miles of you? I did a similar search and there were like 5 total within 50 miles of you. I thought 50 sounded like a lot especially 20 SRT's.....
QuickOne
09-13-2011, 12:41 PM
1. ???? How is the WK2 any different, it was also developed from the non-SRT models.
2. A borrowed transfer case?
"One part of the equation was to create a new transfer case, combining housing components from two existing units with the upgrades needed to make it SRT-capable."
3. An engine that was not much different than the 5.7, (minus few parts changes)
Say what? A "few" parts changes?
"Added more cubic inches, increased the compression ratio, redesigned the cylinder head, intake and exhaust systems...compression ratio was also increased to 10.3:1 from 9.6:1...engine breathing was increased with new higher-flow cylinder heads, a specially designed intake manifold and fresh air induction system, and exhaust headers with individual tubes encased in a stainless steel shell...larger-diameter valves and reshaped ports in the heads allow for maximized air flow... the intake manifold was designed with larger-diameter and shorter runners for higher-speed tuning. Exhaust is routed through a large-diameter (2.75-inch vs. 2.5-inch) exhaust system with four-inch chrome tips...performance-oriented camshaft profiles were developed to allow more air in and out of the cylinders...the high-performance SRT 6.1-liter HEMI is strengthened with redesigned components, including a reinforced engine block, forged steel crankshaft, high-strength powdered-metal connecting rods, floating-pin pistons (cooled by oil squirters), and an oil pan modified to manage oil return to the pan sump at high engine speeds..."
Just like with the WK2, there are a lot of other changes on the WK1 vs the non SRT models.
#1. Different hood for one. A hard part not found on any of the other models and from Scotts info, (or yours) made by an expensive process. Different fender flares.
#2 Case and point. Sounds like they took two units put them together and fixed what broke. And it's still breaking.
#3..Most of that description is saying more air flow with exhaust and intake. A few part changes was pretty accurate. Its got a new cam, Intake manifold and different pistons. Not anywhere near the tech thats in the 6.4. Per your info a while back.
Wait a second here....Wasn't you who told us that this was a completely redesign of the engine with Millions of dollars in development and that it wasn't just a 6.1 redeveloped? I could look for the quote, but just going off what you said when you were defending it when it was announced. :confused:
barho
09-13-2011, 12:43 PM
dont you mean 500 miles of you? I did a similar search and there were like 5 total within 50 miles of you. I thought 50 sounded like a lot especially 20 SRT's.....
Nope, just did it again. I live just outside Philly and there are 20 GC SRT8s for sale within 50 miles of me. There are 3 within 20 miles of me.
There are 36 within 100 miles.
Cars.com lists 235 total for sale.
Milous
09-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Those #s of WK's produced weren't production limitations, but sales limitations. Totally different animal and 100% why we saw $6,000 cash rebates from Jeep on those.
And you don't think that there will be rebates during the last model year of the WK2 SRT8?
...an engine that was not much different than the 5.7, (minus few parts changes)...
Those "few" parts changes btw resulted in an increase of a whopping 90 hp. The increase on the 6.4L vs the 6.1L is only 50 hp.
Scottina06
09-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Nope, just did it again. I live just outside Philly and there are 20 GC SRT8s for sale within 50 miles of me. There are 3 within 20 miles of me.
There are 36 within 100 miles.
Cars.com lists 235 total for sale.
LOL...your IP came back to San Fran 94105...so I ran the numbers for there:thumbsup:
barho
09-13-2011, 12:56 PM
LOL...your IP came back to San Fran 94105...so I ran the numbers for there:thumbsup:
Nice!
No one can track me...........;)
QuickOne
09-13-2011, 01:09 PM
And you don't think that there will be rebates during the last model year of the WK2 SRT8?
Those "few" parts changes btw resulted in an increase of a whopping 90 hp. The increase on the 6.4L vs the 6.1L is only 50 hp.
Milous, you sure have changed the swing of your bat, huh?
I recall such a short time ago how you said this was a Torque Monster and the HP was irrelevant because of the new torque curve.
What happened? :confused:
Are you disaggreeing with me on the production volumes over the sales volumes or are you just argueing about the rebates on the excess UNSOLD wk1srt8's?
If all the units sell out, I don't think there will be any rebates. Do you?
Guess we're on different sides of the track these days Milous. I'm sorry to see that.
Uncle Paul
09-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Biggest complaints on this forum about the original Jeep SRT was lack of tow hitch, poor fuel economy, and too firm ride for a luxury performance Jeep.
Those who purchased the originals realized that it was a huge bargain, with many paying over sticker price in the beginning.
The new Jeep, while not stopwatch faster, is far easier to drive fast, rides much smoother, and has adjustable suspension. It tows a bunch with a proper hitch system, is quieter, has better nav and sound system. It is much larger inside with far more rear seat comfort with real knee room and reclining rear seats.
While fuel economy is still not stellar, it is significantly better. The interior is of far better quality, and yes, the price went up to reflect all the improvements.
For those early adopters, rejoice in your good fortune of getting a more raw, viseral and less expensive hot rod jeep. The marketplace is more demanding of a more refined ride, and Jeep has hit it right with this new Grand Cherokee.
barho
09-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Milous, you sure have changed the swing of your bat, huh?
I recall such a short time ago how you said this was a Torque Monster and the HP was irrelevant because of the new torque curve.
What happened? :confused:
Are you disaggreeing with me on the production volumes over the sales volumes or are you just argueing about the rebates on the excess UNSOLD wk1srt8's?
If all the units sell out, I don't think there will be any rebates. Do you?
Guess we're on different sides of the track these days Milous. I'm sorry to see that.
He, too (from what I've gathered), does not understand why the huge price increase. And that, in and of itself, should say a lot to those of us who have followed Milous since the SRT first came out in 06.
I think he agrees with many of us that it truly is a beautiful vehicle, but the difference in cost based on the other trim levels (when compared to the WK1 difference in trim levels) points to a fleecing of the consumer.
Yaccster
09-13-2011, 01:33 PM
I am glad all 4,000 units were sold to dealers (is it 4,000 or 3,800 Chrysler??). Gonna be sitting on lots for quite some time.
I think all of those have a customer assigned to them as well. Of course that doesn't mean that actual customer will take delivery of it (my previous vehicle was ordered for another person). It does mean that there is more buzz and interest in this model than in any of the previous years. I would doubt that any of these would be sitting on the lots for long.
barho
09-13-2011, 01:44 PM
I think all of those have a customer assigned to them as well. Of course that doesn't mean that actual customer will take delivery of it (my previous vehicle was ordered for another person). It does mean that there is more buzz and interest in this model than in any of the previous years. I would doubt that any of these would be sitting on the lots for long.
While you may be correct about them not sitting for long (especially during the first year), I highly doubt those 4,000 units sold to dealers already all are assigned to a purchaser. Dealers buy vehicles through their allocation all the time. I am quite certain the majority of the 4,000 units said to be sold already to dealers are not assigned to a purchaser.
GCOverland
09-13-2011, 01:57 PM
A. Compared to the "regular" WK2 (Overland), the SRT8 is way too expensive (Milous is absolutely right on that one).
B. Compared to the (european) competition, the SRT8 is a bargain.
I'm going to try to ignore "A." and focus on "B." when I'll be in the market for a SRT8 in a few years. Won't be easy but looking at posted pictures of other members' rides while waiting might help..:lol:
BostonDMD
09-13-2011, 01:57 PM
I hope this thread doesn't turn into another WK1 vs WK2 battle......
barho
09-13-2011, 02:07 PM
I hope this thread doesn't turn into another WK1 vs WK2 battle......
It won't. Anyone that thinks the WK1 is a better vehicle than the WK2 is completely off their rocker.
There is NO doubt the WK2 version is a far superior vehicle IMO. The only problem is the price difference.
bgmail777
09-13-2011, 03:03 PM
Here's an excerpt from an article about the Frankfurt auto show.
"Chrysler's Jeep brand launched its most powerful Jeep vehicle ever, the Grand Cherokee SRT8. SRT stands for street and racing technology and the limited edition Cherokee will achieve 0-100 kilometers per hour (0-60 mph) in 4.8 seconds -- and hit a top speed of 255 kilometers per hour (158 mph).
Jeep CEO Michael Manley said all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers."
Here's the link to the article if needed.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Carmakers-show-off-in-apf-3553504462.html?x=0
Milous, is it possible for you to confirm that what the article says is true, that "all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers."?
Regarding the article, I wonder if a dealer allocation is considered as a "sold" unit (therefore, being sold to the dealer)?
QuickOne
09-13-2011, 05:02 PM
While you may be correct about them not sitting for long (especially during the first year), I highly doubt those 4,000 units sold to dealers already all are assigned to a purchaser. Dealers buy vehicles through their allocation all the time. I am quite certain the majority of the 4,000 units said to be sold already to dealers are not assigned to a purchaser.
Two sales managers of 2 seperate dealers in my area were told by their respective dealer rep to NOT order for dealer stock, as it will NOT be filled.
It is surely possible they ignored that, but I would not say that the majority are just blank orders by dealers, when the reps were instructing them not to.
A. Compared to the "regular" WK2 (Overland), the SRT8 is way too expensive (Milous is absolutely right on that one).
B. Compared to the (european) competition, the SRT8 is a bargain.
I'm going to try to ignore "A." and focus on "B." when I'll be in the market for a SRT8 in a few years. Won't be easy but looking at posted pictures of other members' rides while waiting might help..:lol:
I agree with this philosophy 100%. It is not the price I expected or believe was the correct entry point of the new version.
However, when I start opening the comparison sheet against ALL other makes and models, there is some eye opening information about pricing on ALL levels, not just Chrysler!
Mustang GT per Fords Build your own website = $46K :eek: $46K for a Pony Car?
Explorer Limited per Fords site = $51K
Buick Enclave per Buicks site = $55K
Chevy Tahoe per Chevy's site = $61K
Jeep Cherokee SRT8 per Jeeps website = $63,025K
12Jeep
09-13-2011, 05:06 PM
Milous, is it possible for you to confirm that what the article says is true, that "all of the 4,000 planned for production in 2012 have been sold to dealers."?
Regarding the article, I wonder if a dealer allocation is considered as a "sold" unit (therefore, being sold to the dealer)?
My guess is that they rounded up from 3,800 when they were speaking to the journalist and that the reference to all of the units being sold to dealers represents all of the orders they have from dealers (dealer stock units and sold units)
VerbalKint
09-13-2011, 05:28 PM
I hope this thread doesn't turn into another WK1 vs WK2 battle......
+1
bematare
09-13-2011, 05:45 PM
http://pichars.org/store/1323_original_0eacl.
GreggSRT8
09-13-2011, 08:47 PM
My dealership was allocated 5 SRT8's and they ordered 5. Each in D1 status except for mine (JS) - Only 2 people have put down deposits to reserve...mine and one other guy....leaving 3 available.
Milous
09-13-2011, 11:31 PM
Milous, you sure have changed the swing of your bat, huh?
I recall such a short time ago how you said this was a Torque Monster and the HP was irrelevant because of the new torque curve.
What happened? :confused:
Are you disaggreeing with me on the production volumes over the sales volumes or are you just argueing about the rebates on the excess UNSOLD wk1srt8's?
If all the units sell out, I don't think there will be any rebates. Do you?
Guess we're on different sides of the track these days Milous. I'm sorry to see that.
Naa, not changing the swing of my bat... I just felt that your comment about the WK1 SRT just being a "standard WK with some plastic added" while implying the WK2 is not was not a very accurate or fair comparison. Both the Wk1 SRT and WK2 SRT are based off of versions of the standard GC with the appropriate upgrades. They are essential "equal" in that regard.
I guess I just took exception as it sounded as if you were stating that the WK1 SRT was more or less just "thrown together" - when in fact millions and millions of $ were spent in the R&D, and there is an extensive list of upgrades that were done. The WK2 is no different, millions & millions were also spent for the upgrades.
The WK2 SRT engineers of course had a much improved all-new vehicle to begin with - independent suspension, the upgraded and larger interior, all the new technology etc.
There are quite a few things I like about the new SRT, it is truly a remarkable vehicle in many ways. And as an all-new generation, a long list of improvements is to be expected - just as there were with the WK over the WJ generation. I don't care for all the chrome nor do I like the wheels. I don't like the fact that the rear styling copied import vehicles instead of being unique.
The rear exhaust styling is lame, protruding out of a cheap-looking surround. The center exhaust should have never been eliminated. Engineering could have easily designed a cat-back system that would have allowed split pipes for the towing option and center pipes for non-tow equipped vehicles. Give me the much better and bad-ass WK1 exterior styling with the Wk2 interior at a fair price and I'd be a happy camper
It was expected that there would be a small price increase for the new SRT, but no one really could have predicted how sizable it ended up to be. Like so many others out there, I felt and still feel that SRT could have been a little more reasonable on the pricing. No one will ever convince me otherwise that only a small amount of the increase was needed to cover the additional costs (Brembo upgrade/hood). The rest is gravy, a LOT of gravy.
Had the WK2 offered the new 8.4" nav, a 6 or 8-sp transmission and a few more tenth's in the quarter mile, I think you would have seen a lot less complaining about the price. I also think of would have been smarter for SRT to have implemented gradual price increases spread across a few model years rather than throwing out such a large one all at once. As it is, you are going to have the typical increases that are implemented during each model year. Trust me, it won't be very long before you see the Jeep SRT breaking the $70,000 price barrier. For some it will be worth it, for others it will not be.
Milous
09-13-2011, 11:41 PM
Mustang GT per Fords Build your own website = $46K :eek: $46K for a Pony Car?
Explorer Limited per Fords site = $51K
Buick Enclave per Buicks site = $55K
Chevy Tahoe per Chevy's site = $61K
Jeep Cherokee SRT8 per Jeeps website = $63,025K
Definitely a few surprises out there, but I think everyone is comparing the price of the Jeep to the other "similar" SRT models which are all in the 40's. SRT would have never gotten away with large increases on the other vehicles as they are already priced above some of the competition. For the Jeep they had a lot of "headroom" in the marketplace, which they no doubt really took advantage of.
QuickOne
09-14-2011, 05:23 AM
Had the WK2 offered the new 8.4" nav, a 6 or 8-sp transmission and a few more tenth's in the quarter mile, I think you would have seen a lot less complaining about the price.
I agree and think everyone on any of the Jeep forums agree. I know I was shocked to see the new display in a standard Charger (rental car) and not see it in the Top of the line Chrysler product.
I also think of would have been smarter for SRT to have implemented gradual price increases spread across a few model years rather than throwing out such a large one all at once. As it is, you are going to have the typical increases that are implemented during each model year. Trust me, it won't be very long before you see the Jeep SRT breaking the $70,000 price barrier. For some it will be worth it, for others it will not be.
I had also said the same thing, adding that if they kept the weight down, which would have helped performance #s and times, with a small price increase, all would be accepting.
So have you heard any updates of the "track" version, which might address some of these issues?
Maybe it will take out some of the high tech, drop weight, and in turn drop some costs?
Rose City GC SRT8
09-14-2011, 06:15 AM
I'm with Milous all the way on this one. My idea of "what if" would be a factory installed 6.4 in the WK. That could probably do 12.5 easily and be the baddest SUV bar none. In fact, I think I'll do that one day......
bgmail777
09-14-2011, 07:24 AM
I agree and think everyone on any of the Jeep forums agree. I know I was shocked to see the new display in a standard Charger (rental car) and not see it in the Top of the line Chrysler product.
I had also said the same thing, adding that if they kept the weight down, which would have helped performance #s and times, with a small price increase, all would be accepting.
So have you heard any updates of the "track" version, which might address some of these issues?
Maybe it will take out some of the high tech, drop weight, and in turn drop some costs?
I don't believe they have put the larger display in the Challenger SRT8 either. I saw it briefly during the SRT Tour, I was more focused on the GC, so I payed way more attention to it, but, I don't believe it is in the Challenger either.
mlarco52
09-14-2011, 09:41 AM
Even the 300 SRT8 on the Chrysler website, built with the pano sunroof and the 19 speaker sound system is $54,280, yes still 9k difference but that seems more than previous years, although I don't know the 2010's MSRP.
barho
09-14-2011, 10:31 AM
Even the 300 SRT8 on the Chrysler website, built with the pano sunroof and the 19 speaker sound system is $54,280, yes still 9k difference but that seems more than previous years, although I don't know the 2010's MSRP.
300C SRT fully loaded in 2010 was around $48K
GC SRT fully loaded in 2010 was around $50K
Ecveryone agrees that all the SRT vehicles went up in price. But the Jeep went up FAR more.
Scottina06
09-14-2011, 10:34 AM
Even the 300 SRT8 on the Chrysler website, built with the pano sunroof and the 19 speaker sound system is $54,280, yes still 9k difference but that seems more than previous years, although I don't know the 2010's MSRP.
the jeep with the same options is only $61K
mlarco52
09-14-2011, 10:59 AM
I agree with all that the price has went up significantly but 7k more than the 300 SRT isn't that much more to ask when you consider your getting a SUV capable of towing, more storage space, all wheel drive and ability to drive year round rather than having to garage it for the winter. Bargain in my book, although higher priced than the 2010 GC SRT, still the best bargain on the block when considering performance SUVs.
Yaccster
09-14-2011, 02:23 PM
Just talked to my dealer. He has a couple of 'sold' orders that are in the system and is not sure he'll get any of the ones he ordered for stock.
Scottina06
09-14-2011, 02:29 PM
every dealer Ive talked to...has sold orders with multiple buyers waiting in line.......FWIW
transam
09-14-2011, 02:38 PM
every dealer Ive talked to...has sold orders with multiple buyers waiting in line.......FWIW
I'm not the least bit surprised
barho
09-15-2011, 06:19 AM
every dealer Ive talked to...has sold orders with multiple buyers waiting in line.......FWIW
LOL!
C'mon Scott, really. Every dealer says this about EVERY car they have that is just coming out.
Scottina06
09-15-2011, 10:22 AM
I have an "insider" list of ordered SRT8's, SRT8's that have been built etc. I called the dealers within my vicinity...and all of them told me their orders are pending sold with multiple customers in line. Why would they lie to a potential customer? Doesnt make sense at all....
Velopod
09-16-2011, 09:46 AM
I have an "insider" list of ordered SRT8's, SRT8's that have been built etc. I called the dealers within my vicinity...and all of them told me their orders are pending sold with multiple customers in line. Why would they lie to a potential customer? Doesnt make sense at all....
I continued to get the same run around after placing my order in early June as soon the banks opened. Had nothing/no VIN # since last week and I finally caved and got a CTS-V wagon. Couldn't be happier. Hope to see/get to drive one these beasts eventually, but Chrysler might have a bunch more of these sitting around dealer's lots than they think ...
MXHAULER
09-16-2011, 10:29 AM
Ordered early june have VIN and in D1 status but no date. Jeep customer service told me LNOT ENOUGH ORDERS". Reason for delay which makes no sense. Wish somebody could get real answer to what is taking so long to get these beasts onto the production line. Not hard to understand why people jumping to other vehicles
12Jeep
09-16-2011, 08:03 PM
Ordered early june have VIN and in D1 status but no date. Jeep customer service told me LNOT ENOUGH ORDERS". Reason for delay which makes no sense. Wish somebody could get real answer to what is taking so long to get these beasts onto the production line. Not hard to understand why people jumping to other vehicles
Sounds like customer service is getting real creative with responses to inquiries.
mlarco52
09-16-2011, 08:26 PM
I called customer service, the service rep asked me if I was referring to the 2012 Wrangler SRT V8.
My reaction was:
http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/500/medium/double-facepalm.jpg
Robert Palmer
09-16-2011, 10:43 PM
^Wowowowwow at the customer service. LOL
joelockwood
09-17-2011, 09:29 AM
I personally think the sold out line is bs. My dealer and I are going to court because he won't cancel order. I would think if they were that hot he'd just move on to next in line. This whole release has been a fiasco
Krush
09-17-2011, 07:25 PM
I personally think the sold out line is bs. My dealer and I are going to court because he won't cancel order. I would think if they were that hot he'd just move on to next in line. This whole release has been a fiasco
Wow, my dealer practically ran to get my check when i told him i was canceling. He was excited to have one he could put on the lot.
jeep2011
09-18-2011, 08:39 AM
Not mine they were happy to cancel the order. My sales guy spoke to the GM about keeping the order for the lot, the GM said he wouldn't be able to sell one around here for that price, so they canceled the order all together. Was kinda bummed since I had just received my VIN that day.
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