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Matt
09-23-2009, 07:34 AM
My HID's will be here in a couple hours. I'm heading to Lowe's in 15 minutes to get some supplies, what am I missing?

Supplies


Zip-ties
Sandpaper
Electrical tape (probably unnecessary)
Maybe wire cover (probably unnecessary)

I assume the relay comes with proper terminations, etc.
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 07:41 AM
Where did you get them from? Tony aka tcmglx or baja?
Chaoul1
09-23-2009, 07:43 AM
Can you do a write up on this also Please? I might have to help my cousin install his headlight's. Thanks a lot. GL!
Matt
09-23-2009, 07:45 AM
Where did you get them from? Tony aka tcmglx or baja?

Yeah, Tony!

Can you do a write up on this also Please? I might have to help my cousin install his headlight's. Thanks a lot. GL!

Sure can... I'll also take step-by-step pics of the bumper removal for the WK guys.
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 08:26 AM
It's all plug & play. May need zip ties and a drill and screw for the grounds and mount the relays. That's all I used. No splicing or anything. Took me like 1.5 hours for fogs and lows. Fogs took like 15 min.
Matt
09-23-2009, 09:00 AM
It's all plug & play. May need zip ties and a drill and screw for the grounds and mount the relays. That's all I used. No splicing or anything. Took me like 1.5 hours for fogs and lows. Fogs took like 15 min.

Thanks Nate!

Just go back from Lowe's. Probably bought more than I'll need, lol, but I usually go overboard when it comes to wiring and I can always return what I don't use.

Install/How-To to come later this afternoon. I may as well remove the front bumper while I wait for USPS.
B.P.O.D
09-23-2009, 09:03 AM
make sure you have a socket set!!! for the ground bolt:)
Matt
09-23-2009, 09:04 AM
make sure you have a socket set!!! for the ground bolt:)

I do, thanks Irf!
B.P.O.D
09-23-2009, 09:12 AM
yup yup.... let us know how it goes... i again drove my mom's 300 last night while she drove my jeep NO GLARE!!!
Matt
09-23-2009, 09:14 AM
yup yup.... let us know how it goes... i again drove my mom's 300 last night while she drove my jeep NO GLARE!!!

Sweet! I forgot to do a before measurement of the stock halogens last night, oh well.
B.P.O.D
09-23-2009, 09:20 AM
yeah not a biggie.... im sure they're are far worst people driving around with their pink and green hids aimed at the sky lolol
Chaoul1
09-23-2009, 11:36 AM
Irf and Nate did you have to remove your front bumper also?
B.P.O.D
09-23-2009, 12:16 PM
no not at all. all you have to do is just remove the grill
Chris
09-23-2009, 01:48 PM
Can't wait to see the how-to and install Matt! Keep us posted!
Matt
09-23-2009, 01:52 PM
Well fellows, it looks like I'm going to need a second relay for my fogs. They aren't powering on and I have swapped the fog relay (in the fuse box) to make sure that wasn't the issue.
LTrainGC
09-23-2009, 01:55 PM
Well fellows, it looks like I'm going to need a second relay for my fogs. They aren't powering on and I have swapped the fog relay (in the fuse box) to make sure that wasn't the issue.

I would double check all of the wiring... mine didn't need a relay.

When I installed all of my HID stuff I had to go back twice because I had something wired wrong.
Matt
09-23-2009, 01:58 PM
I would double check all of the wiring... mine didn't need a relay.

When I installed all of my HID stuff I had to go back twice because I had something wired wrong.

I'll check it again.
Matt
09-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Yup, it's all 100% connected. This sucks :mad:

Is there any other fuse or relay to check under the hood? I already checked the "Fnt Fog Lamps" relay in the forward-most fuse box.
B.P.O.D
09-23-2009, 02:28 PM
are your headlights working? if not it's a GROUND
Matt
09-23-2009, 02:30 PM
are your headlights working? if not it's a GROUND

Yes, my 5k lows (with a relay) power up just fine.

Either way, the fogs are a completely separate assembly from the lows... :confused:
Chris
09-23-2009, 02:44 PM
Did you use a wire (relay) harness or just wire them straight up to the headlights?
Matt
09-23-2009, 02:48 PM
Did you use a wire (relay) harness or just wire them straight up to the headlights?

Well the issue is with the fogs, not the lows. The lows are wired to the driver-side headlight harness and a relay (relay powers the passenger-side headlight). The low-beams work just fine.

The fogs are wired to their respective fog light harness with the ballast, then from the ballast to the HID fog light.
LTrainGC
09-23-2009, 03:13 PM
Well the issue is with the fogs, not the lows. The lows are wired to the driver-side headlight harness and a relay (relay powers the passenger-side headlight). The low-beams work just fine.

The fogs are wired to their respective fog light harness with the ballast, then from the ballast to the HID fog light.

You might have received defective ballasts? IDK... could you try using one of your headlight ballasts with your fogs to see if that might be the problem?
LO.7
09-23-2009, 03:17 PM
I had problems with my fogs initially as well.. They would power up, however would flicker every few minutes.. This was solved by adding a relay.

I've heard something about reversing the polarity of the wires, so that might be the problem.
Matt
09-23-2009, 03:18 PM
You might have received defective ballasts? IDK... could you try using one of your headlight ballasts with your fogs to see if that might be the problem?

You think it's possible that both fog ballast are defective. I could understand that if one fog light didn't work to assume it is the ballast or bulb, but if both aren't working then I'm not sure if the ballasts should be where the finger be pointed first.

.. but I guess I should do that to be sure, thanks Frank!
Matt
09-23-2009, 03:21 PM
I had problems with my fogs initially as well.. They would power up, however would flicker every few minutes.. This was solved by adding a relay.

I've heard something about reversing the polarity of the wires, so that might be the problem.

Hmm. Mine never showed any signs powering up. I'll look into the reversing of polarity (I think it was mentioned in the users manual). I'd rather have the relay just so I never have any issues of "chance" down the road. Thanks Chris!
LO.7
09-23-2009, 03:23 PM
No prob.

I think I had one of the wires on the harness for my fogs reversed unknowingly and was like WTF when it wouldn't power up.. So it took it all apart and started from scratch and caught my mistake while going over the wiring again.. It's worth a try.
Matt
09-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Yeah, just reading the product sheet now it seems it could very well be the polarity of the harness. Dinner is ready so I'm going to go eat and then reverse the polarity of the fog harness and see if that works. Thanks guys for the quick help... be back on in a little bit.
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Matt call me in you need help. I'll PM you me cell.
Matt
09-23-2009, 03:27 PM
Matt call me in you need help. I'll PM you me cell.

Cool, thanks Nate!!
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 03:30 PM
It's where the relay plug goes into the ballst. It doesn't go in the way you think it does. Flip it around with the locking tab on the outside.
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 03:33 PM
You have to pay attention to the poz and neg and make sure you then together.
Matt
09-23-2009, 03:57 PM
I literally had my phone out ready to call you Nate and I decided to try one more thing and voila, they work, lol. At first I tried switching the polarity at the HID bulb harness and the plug from the ballast (assuming the wires could be removed and then switched. As I'm getting ready to call Nate I decide to try and flip the factory fog harness and the ballast plus and that was the ticket. I must have misinterpreted the literature in the manual. Oh well, they work now.

Time to adjust the aiming and take some pics.

Thanks guys for the quick help!!!!

It's where the relay plug goes into the ballst. It doesn't go in the way you think it does. Flip it around with the locking tab on the outside.

This was with the fogs -- no relay involved. But you were right it was the factory fog wiring that needed to be switched (where the relay would have been if it had one. Thanks Nate!!

You have to pay attention to the poz and neg and make sure you then together.

Paying attention.. pshh.. that's way overrated :D :slapfight: :p
Matt
09-23-2009, 04:06 PM
How far down did you guys adjust your lamps after installing HID's?

I just adjusted them as far down as they would go (the housing touching the frame) until I can have someone drive my Jeep behind me in a car.
LO.7
09-23-2009, 04:10 PM
How far down did you guys adjust your lamps after installing HID's?

I just adjusted them as far down as they would go (the housing touching the frame) until I can have someone drive my Jeep behind me in a car.

I didn't adjust mine at all. lol Maybe I should try messing around with them some night while aimed at my garage door.

Glad the install worked out for you dude. Now let's see some pics!!
Scottina06
09-23-2009, 04:18 PM
yup yup.... let us know how it goes... i again drove my mom's 300 last night while she drove my jeep NO GLARE!!!


IRF...come on bro! I dont understand..........


any of the thousands of WK owners that have HID's will tell you exactly the opposite....

the HID's scatter in the WK stock housings, there is crazy glare and blinding of oncoming drivers...even if adjusted correctly. everyone knows it....why do you not?
White WK Swagga
09-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Glad all is working for ya Matt. I didn't aim mne at all I left them. Now done go writing my cell # down on mens room stall walls or anything. LMAO
Matt
09-23-2009, 04:45 PM
I didn't adjust mine at all. lol Maybe I should try messing around with them some night while aimed at my garage door.

Glad the install worked out for you dude. Now let's see some pics!!

haha, yeah I'm hoping to minimize the "blinding the other drivers affect", lol.

IRF...come on bro! I dont understand..........


any of the thousands of WK owners that have HID's will tell you exactly the opposite....

the HID's scatter in the WK stock housings, there is crazy glare and blinding of oncoming drivers...even if adjusted correctly. everyone knows it....why do you not?

Irfy... so stubborn, haha!

Glad all is working for ya Matt. I didn't aim mne at all I left them.

Thanks Nate! And thanks for offering your help!!

Now done go writing my cell # down on mens room stall walls or anything. LMAO

Toooo Late! :lol: :slapfight: :D jk, your # is safe with me :thumbsup: (wait, <-- no homo) -- LOL.
B.P.O.D
09-24-2009, 06:55 AM
well glad to see it worked matt.. i think a lot of us had to switch the plug that goes into the ballast from the lights to make them work... should have called me:) hahahha.... no pics???? WTF???
Matt
09-24-2009, 07:03 AM
well glad to see it worked matt.. i think a lot of us had to switch the plug that goes into the ballast from the lights to make them work... should have called me:) hahahha.... no pics???? WTF???

I was about to call Nate, but tried one last thing and that ended up being the solution, lol.

Pics:

http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=2860