Lets (try) to kick some hemi a$$ :)

[diesel2fast4u]

Hi everybody,

My first post, thought hell why not a good one.

I am not new to Jeep / Chrysler. For several years I was an indepandent product trainer here in Belgium.
Also I have had a 300C CRD SRT design on wich I putted 230.000 km in nearly 3 years.

I purchased 2 weeks ago a Black Grand Cherokee S-Limited from 2007 with 130,000 km

Now, I always loved the GCSRT8 , but here in Belgium it's just not realistic to drive more than 80,000 km a year on petrol....

So I decided to build myself a real SRT - Diesel.

What do I mean with "real"

Well I purchased :
- Brand new GCSRT8 front seats, those were my first mod (came from a left hand drive car so I have now L and R height adjustable seats)
- Front & back Brembo's with discs
- Front & back SRT8 bumpers & side skirts
- Front & back springs & dampers (original SRT8)
- Complete SRT8 exhaust system (this is a real challange as I have a hitch & don't want to loose it)
I still need the rear sway bar, but I am going to install first all this...

So far for the body mods. But with looks like SRT8 I need a little more oumpf if you now what I mean.

I think that the OM642, the V6 320 cdi mercedes engine is a great engine... , with huge power potential (they presented in 05 or 06 a 320SLK diesel with a tripple turbo concept pushing 285HP & more then 700nm)

Problem with this engine is the tiny wheeny supercharger from garrett the 2056 and no matter what people think or tuning box guys say, to get more then 260 HP out off this charger is not possible.

Due to the fact that the turbocharger is installed in the V of the engine, it's very hard to upgrade the turbocharger....

UNTILL NOW :) :)

Mercedes has made a new 350cdi engine with standard from the factory 265 HP and they do this with a new turbo from garrett the GTB2260VKLR.
Water cooled ball bearing & able to make 330 HP

Guess what I recieved in the mail today :) :)

And let's see what DPF removal, EGR blocking, GTB2260VKLR, SRT8 exhaust & a tuner with experience will get out off this diesel...

More pics will follow :thumbsup:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XlwV5KrtvR4/Tvm8kNGa9ZI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/AOWvorCHmVc/s800/2260_2.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RB8AUfgkiQY/Tvm8nquAl2I/AAAAAAAAAKM/8gKySOAvvgk/s800/2260_1.JPG

[*BabyGirlJJ*]

Hola - welcome to Jeep garage!

[Scottina06]

Gonna be an awesome setup!
Welcome!

sent from my HTC EVO

[Kashef]

Welcome!!

[Burner]

Looks like this is going to be an awesome build. Interesting fact about the stock turbo though. So to go bigger we need to get a bigger turbo off the bat then.

[Chaoul1]

Keep us updated!

[TurboDiesel]

thats sick man
looking forward to updates

did the srt8 exhaust bolt right up??

[diesel2fast4u]

thats sick man
looking forward to updates

did the srt8 exhaust bolt right up??

I haven't done the exhaust yet, but I can tell you NO :) it doesn't bolt right up.
I am first taking out the dpf and delete the EGR. After mayby Cat if needed.

I bought the exhaust for the bends and the tips ...

[TurboDiesel]

im really curious about the exhaust,
i used to drive a 3.5L chrysler 300 and i bolted a 5.7 exhaust to it and it fit perfectly

how much was the turbo? if u dont mind me asking...

this is gonna be an awesome build

[diesel2fast4u]

im really curious about the exhaust,
i used to drive a 3.5L chrysler 300 and i bolted a 5.7 exhaust to it and it fit perfectly

how much was the turbo? if u dont mind me asking...

this is gonna be an awesome build

Yeah, but the diesels are different, the exhaust line is different.
You know they were produced in Graz, Austria?

Turbo is very hard to find, was 1800 usd :(

[diesel2fast4u]

Before everything :
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2s6HVXuN7mU/Tvz8ovwyhdI/AAAAAAAAALA/LxWU1EJVOHs/s800/8.JPG
seats:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JA0JTuS2zKo/Tvz9A18kCOI/AAAAAAAAALI/3qiaHqDg3Y0/s800/9.JPG

we mounted the suspension today, pics follow tomorrow

[TurboDiesel]

yea i was wondering what the exhaust route was between the WK lines

1800 isnt that bad considering if like a hemi was gonna get a supercharger which is like $4000 or so lol


looks good so far! i want some srt seats :D

[diesel2fast4u]

yea i was wondering what the exhaust route was between the WK lines

1800 isnt that bad considering if like a hemi was gonna get a supercharger which is like $4000 or so lol


looks good so far! i want some srt seats :D

They were a steal actually, I found original (euro) rims and the seats from a totalled one with 8 miles on the odo, the seats were still covered in plastic... 650 usd fot the 2
2 rims were dented wich I had repared, I mount them today.

First impression of the SRT suspension... WWWOOOOOOOWWWW that's difference in handling

[TurboDiesel]

ahha thats sick man
cant wait to see this thing finished!

[TJcust]

Looking forward to see what you do with the DPF.. I have been trying to find a way to delete it for a while now. 1800 for the turbo isn't bad either.

[TurboDiesel]

^ custom spooling has a DPF delete with tune, i think its $1000 so u throw no codes
take a look over on jeep forum

[diesel2fast4u]

Wheels and suspension

Getting 275/40/20 winter tires on a 8 inch euro rim was a real challenge :slapfight:
Next getting rid of the tiny brakes & bumpers & side skirts.
Bumper is also a challenge, I purchased a used 08 one, presented it today , well it needs some welding & cutting :)

But now first New Year and a week holidays, we are off skiing in France till 8/1 so no updates

See you all next year

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nbM1mjF6WoI/Tv7RcneBU4I/AAAAAAAAALU/ffLQ5V2LV7s/s800/foto.JPG

[TurboDiesel]

damn that looks sexy, gonna need some tinted tails and black headlights haha
looking forward to the update

have a good new years!

[Escape]

Excellent!

Keep us updated.

[diesel2fast4u]

@escape, what headlights do you have?

Love them...

Got back today so next week, updates

Should I black out the trim?

[TurboDiesel]

yes black it all out LOL say no to chrome! :D

[NHWK05]

Awesome build. Cant wait to see more progress. Not completely a fan of the Euro 8" SRT wheels but you cant beat that price.

Did the 07 S limited WK have the srt styled seats? I know in the US the newer S limited had SRT8 seats with out the srt8 logo.

I also like your stock wheels alot. It seems that Jeep put 7 and 10 spoke wheels stock on the WK but we never got those wheels offered in the US.

As far as the front bumper goes, you will need to change to an 08 grille and you can either change to 08 headlights or you might be able to trim the "humps" off under the headlights area to make it fit but you WILL need the Grille either way.

[Escape]

@escape, what headlights do you have?

Love them...

Got back today so next week, updates

Should I black out the trim?

Thanks man,

I made them using Flashtech Halos.

Thread found here.
http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=2386

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/My_Kiddos/JAMES%20STUFF/IMG_0199-1.jpg

[diesel2fast4u]

Awesome build. Cant wait to see more progress. Not completely a fan of the Euro 8" SRT wheels but you cant beat that price.

Did the 07 S limited WK have the srt styled seats? I know in the US the newer S limited had SRT8 seats with out the srt8 logo.

I also like your stock wheels alot. It seems that Jeep put 7 and 10 spoke wheels stock on the WK but we never got those wheels offered in the US.

As far as the front bumper goes, you will need to change to an 08 grille and you can either change to 08 headlights or you might be able to trim the "humps" off under the headlights area to make it fit but you WILL need the Grille either way.

07 S limited had original seats

I can sell you the wheels if you want :D

Actually I am using the original grill :D
The trimming doesn't work, I tried.
I am cutting the original bumper half an inch further then the grill and headlights, the the same thing on the srt bumper, then we weld the plastic together and thatha, 07WK 07Headlights 07 Grill & modified 08 bumper
I'll take pics in progress...

[NHWK05]

How do you weld plastic? Is it going to be strong enough?

[diesel2fast4u]

How do you weld plastic? Is it going to be strong enough?

offcourse, it's like welding steel, you heat the material and ad adhesive, then sanding, priming & painting

[NHWK05]

Can you post pics of the process and how its done? I'd love to see it.

[TurboDiesel]

can i have ur turbo? LOL

[diesel2fast4u]

Can you post pics of the process and how its done? I'd love to see it.

yes

[diesel2fast4u]

can i have ur turbo? LOL

no :lol:

[TurboDiesel]

hahah i need to get me one
when u doing the install? will it be straight plug and play?

[diesel2fast4u]

This weekend, I order the gaskets 2morrow.

Also DPF & EGR delete ...

[TurboDiesel]

are u getting the tune then?
or how are u deleting the DPF?

[diesel2fast4u]

are u getting the tune then?
or how are u deleting the DPF?

Yes, my buddy is doing the programming.

How deleting the DPF?
You take off the exhaust, cut the dpf, empty it and weld back again.
Then DPF delete in the ECU

[NHWK05]

The MBRP exhaust for the 3.0 1' completely deletes the DPF and the muffler. All it is is a straight pipe from the flange back. Is that not legal there?

[TurboDiesel]

i thought the MBRP was DPF back?

also how is ur buddy doing the tune? any chance i could get it? LOL
custom spooling charges like $1000 which i find is just rediculous lollol or im just cheap :P

[NHWK05]

Its designed for wks with a dpf it says. All the pictures and installs I've seen show it as a straight pipe from the flange all thw way back.(Edit read further and its filter back) Its hard to read every line on a phone. LOL
http://offcamberfabrications.com/index.php?page=products&part=S6500304

[TurboDiesel]

Hmm iono I thought if ur looking in the engine bay on the left side, that huge pipe was the dpf, no?

[NHWK05]

Edited my last post, its filter back, no delete. Im new to the diesel thing and the one i will have in 14 months is a 2.8 Liberty KJ. Im in for a whole new mess of trouble with that thing. LOL

[TurboDiesel]

Haha I love my CRD
I know nothing about vehicles so I wasn't nervous about getting the diesel
Gotta love these forums tho

[*sox*]

Hi everybody,

My first post, thought hell why not a good one.

I am not new to Jeep / Chrysler. For several years I was an indepandent product trainer here in Belgium.
Also I have had a 300C CRD SRT design on wich I putted 230.000 km in nearly 3 years.

I purchased 2 weeks ago a Black Grand Cherokee S-Limited from 2007 with 130,000 km

Now, I always loved the GCSRT8 , but here in Belgium it's just not realistic to drive more than 80,000 km a year on petrol....

So I decided to build myself a real SRT - Diesel.

What do I mean with "real"I

Well I purchased :
- Brand new GCSRT8 front seats, those were my first mod (came from a left hand drive car so I have now L and R height adjustable seats)
- Front & back Brembo's with discs
- Front & back SRT8 bumpers & side skirts
- Front & back springs & dampers (original SRT8)
- Complete SRT8 exhaust system (this is a real challange as I have a hitch & don't want to loose it)
I still need the rear sway bar, but I am going to install first all this...

So far for the body mods. But with looks like SRT8 I need a little more oumpf if you now what I mean.

I think that the OM642, the V6 320 cdi mercedes engine is a great engine... , with huge power potential (they presented in 05 or 06 a 320SLK diesel with a tripple turbo concept pushing 285HP & more then 700nm)

Problem with this engine is the tiny wheeny supercharger from garrett the 2056 and no matter what people think or tuning box guys say, to get more then 260 HP out off this charger is not possible.

Due to the fact that the turbocharger is installed in the V of the engine, it's very hard to upgrade the turbocharger....

UNTILL NOW :) :)

Mercedes has made a new 350cdi engine with standard from the factory 265 HP and they do this with a new turbo from garrett the GTB2260VKLR.
Water cooled ball bearing & able to make 330 HP

Guess what I recieved in the mail today :) :)

And let's see what DPF removal, EGR blocking, GTB2260VKLR, SRT8 exhaust & a tuner with experience will get out off this diesel...

More pics will follow :thumbsup:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XlwV5KrtvR4/Tvm8kNGa9ZI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/AOWvorCHmVc/s800/2260_2.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RB8AUfgkiQY/Tvm8nquAl2I/AAAAAAAAAKM/8gKySOAvvgk/s800/2260_1.JPG

Hi Buddy

Welcome to the jeepler :thumbsup:

Intresting , courios to see the Final Car with all this modifications.
:D:D:D

[Burner]

I have that MBRP system on my keep and have not noticed a difference other then sound, when you stomp on the pedel. I'm glad I didn't pay the $1000 plus price tag that comes with it. As I got the last 309 series system MBRP Canada had so I got it for $250. Plus when I went to put it on, and got it all done etc it was not fitting right, so I took it to an exhaust shop and they had to remove a good 3-4" off to get it to fit right. It's a great system but as I said I was expecting more then I got.

[diesel2fast4u]

due to an other project, no work on the jeep last weekend (320cdi 6inline mercedes twin turbo with stand alone ecu )

there is no aftermarket exhaust system with dpf delete because you need programming, otherwise the ceck light will come on...

[TurboDiesel]

i wonder if the truck runs any different without the dpf, like if the CEL makes it in limp mode?

[diesel2fast4u]

Well, the engine is out off the jeep now, decided to go for the full monty and have my heads ported & cam regrind at the same time.

Other news, the turbo isn't exactly plug & play, I'll post pics of parts that have to be changed...

News in a couple off days :D

[TurboDiesel]

Lookin forward to the updates

Hopefully the new turbo isn't too much of a bitch to install

[diesel2fast4u]

It's not exactly plug & play ...

Turbo mount is different

New vs old, new turbo mount has a hole for the watercooling

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0GJcwbU6Lik/Tz_lWGHYEoI/AAAAAAAAAdI/MD81yRZnV7c/s800/IMAGE_709C726A-7715-42BF-A3F8-5D3888E0C218.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-17-A2AQe3Ho/Tz_llWEsztI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/QWQ6ANCjGtQ/s800/IMAGE_2C1E6903-23A3-4B95-A0CB-224239E3EC39.JPG

Water outlet in the turbo

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U1zECk8Kbp0/Tz_lzvBfx7I/AAAAAAAAAdY/p-8mD52dIT0/s800/IMAGE_DB562811-8868-43D5-B448-87D1E3058B82.JPG

Plugged the bottem water feed an tapped a new one in the turbo mount

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d4XdjugNC2k/Tz_mCxa5erI/AAAAAAAAAdg/xBFzCiRWq7M/s800/IMAGE_CEF6DB9F-455F-4160-BBA2-C92B90993237.JPG

Tapped into the block to feed water to the turbo

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YYA4vnRSqJ0/Tz_mPmeJLfI/AAAAAAAAAdo/cHGN6mbZ_So/s800/IMAGE_90181267-EDC9-4539-9162-AAB36F7C0802.JPG

Blocked the EGR & It fits :

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ano2YKv_Ag8/Tz_mexSP_hI/AAAAAAAAAdw/OAlSXWzjxXs/s800/IMAGE_6E2D59A1-BFF2-440A-BB14-947719C5C91A.JPG

[TurboDiesel]

Wish I knew how to do any of that lol

[*sox*]

Nice thread buddy!

[diesel2fast4u]

Resonator empty :
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-izUF8XHaTWM/T0IzDfrqdJI/AAAAAAAAAek/pAUo_sHKPH0/s800/IMAGE_0B788641-878C-4CFB-A6C9-7C809F3CA8BB.JPG

Cat empty :

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eKH8sNF_K2A/T0IzMaQKNoI/AAAAAAAAAes/9_ZoboBtdXs/s800/IMAGE_369E4B69-0ABF-4D2A-BE3F-4855274F4F54.JPG

And dpf empty :

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JLstznq-_sc/T0Iy3uGuwAI/AAAAAAAAAec/xY5WaItVUkU/s800/IMAGE_8F101828-AE00-4EC7-8680-0FD431D5E9A4.JPG

changed the water feed line :

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rttXUvOo9nQ/T0IzoOHfHJI/AAAAAAAAAe8/GfL581mx1Lw/s800/IMAGE_C4958ABF-0190-4587-B767-09B46E2194F3.JPG

[diesel2fast4u]

almost running :)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tRcNdFGhqK4/T0JeUWI8BiI/AAAAAAAAAfI/ArXQ1uRz72E/s800/IMAGE_7C37E999-95C6-40F9-B163-0AEFDAA91702.JPG

[TurboDiesel]

**** this is gonna be sick!

[garretti]

Is there an oil restriction somewhere on the bb turbo, mount or engine block?

[diesel2fast4u]

Is there an oil restriction somewhere on the bb turbo, mount or engine block?

I don't understand what you want to say, what's a bb ?

[garretti]

Just wanted to know if you can be sure that the oil pressure is not too high as you are changing from a turbo with journal bearing to one with bb (ball bearing).

[airmail96]

Yeah generally bb turbos are pretty picky about the oil pressure usually require some sort of restrictor.

[diesel2fast4u]

Just wanted to know if you can be sure that the oil pressure is not too high as you are changing from a turbo with journal bearing to one with bb (ball bearing).

Yeah generally bb turbos are pretty picky about the oil pressure usually require some sort of restrictor.

A restrictor would only change the amount of oil flowing not the pressure

[diesel2fast4u]

Well, it's in & running :
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NyXhMubjJ5Q/T0kaoY2xc0I/AAAAAAAAAfU/5qh-ynh-LZc/s800/IMAGE_57AE6833-F6B8-4002-BB91-C01635D74D3B.JPG

First impression, without the DPF, Cat & resonator it moans a little rougher, also inside.


It started right up but trowed alot of codes, going into limp & engine check light because of the dpf not seeing any difference in pressure. So we fool the computer.

EGR delete is done, without deleting this the turbo makes no boost.

We start to understand the bosch EDC16 better.

My tuner found the boost, rail pressure & torque limiters.

When driving max torque we saw on the computer was 490nm.

Current tuning is very mild, more coming !

[TurboDiesel]

damn thats sick man

should get a sound clip if possible

[TJcust]

Would like to see you do something with that air box. Nice job though.

[Pixelcodex]

Very cool! Look forward to more updates...

[swarmer]

What a good thread! :thumbsup:

I guess the economy will improve as well as the performance, lovely jubbely!. Awsome.

We want update! :D

[diesel2fast4u]

yes, we are still learning the edc 16 :( at the moment very limited due to the max turbo pressure limits.

Fuel consumption is amazing, dropped 2L every 100KM.

I cannot hit the throttle full because of the tune, but it moves very well!!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qeL1gm2UdNY/T3mYOiewAAI/AAAAAAAAAgU/0VJrWpVuF1Q/s800/IMAGE_0F0D4B9B-BC6D-4300-B044-1CF61D2AA03F.JPG

http://youtu.be/597dBvQEnng

[TurboDiesel]

damn i wish mine were that good
im at 13L/100kms

[suzieque]

good work diesel2fast4u, I need to subscribe to this thread. :)

[HEMI35]

pffff, mine is 16L/100Km!!!

[diesel2fast4u]

pffff, mine is 16L/100Km!!!

And I kick your a$$ :) :) :)

Next is SRT8 ...

[TurboDiesel]

any updated pics or anything?

[diesel2fast4u]

any updated pics or anything?

It's going to the bodyshop next week for the front & back SRT8 bumper, I might have some time 2morrow for the exhaust. I want some noise...

Brakes are pain in the a$$ also but I'll make them work :)

[TurboDiesel]

u doing a brembo conversion?

yea i want noise too....let me know how u make it loud!...if u can :P

[diesel2fast4u]

New tune, we where able to find all the turbo limiters, no more cut outs :D

And some more a$$ dyno :D

http://youtu.be/RXfLa5uPTVo
http://youtu.be/WIACY0cyt9A

[crd4me]

New tune, we where able to find all the turbo limiters, no more cut outs :D

And some more a$$ dyno :D

http://youtu.be/RXfLa5uPTVo
http://youtu.be/WIACY0cyt9A


That's pretty sweet I have to say ! I like all the mods and the water cooled ML350 turbo kit :)
But with all those mods have you considered the impact of the regen cycles or were you able to disable that ?

[diesel2fast4u]

That's pretty sweet I have to say ! I like all the mods and the water cooled ML350 turbo kit :)
But with all those mods have you considered the impact of the regen cycles or were you able to disable that ?

Untill now I wasn't able to find the DPF map in the EDC16 but , I will get there :)

So for now I unplugged the MAF, I have a CEL but no regenerate...

I am doing the exhaust this week and finaly start with the SRT bumpers...

[crd4me]

Do you know if unplugging the MAF sensor will affect the swirl motor operation ? If so I guess it will help the fuel economy. I've seen bunch of threads on a other forums with respect to a tune that keeps the swirl valves opens and prevents the swril motor for failures ?

[diesel2fast4u]

Do you know if unplugging the MAF sensor will affect the swirl motor operation ? If so I guess it will help the fuel economy. I've seen bunch of threads on a other forums with respect to a tune that keeps the swirl valves opens and prevents the swril motor for failures ?

I think the only function is for the DPF?
mount a catch can & block the EGR... The swirl will be fine :lol:

[crd4me]

By catch can you meant an egr block off plate??

[suzieque]

By catch can you meant an egr block off plate??

no, a catch can something different, you can read about the provent/racor catch cans here http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=7513

[crd4me]

Oh yeah of course ... To prevent oil in the intake and protect the swirl motor, gotcha.