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Old 07-15-2012, 06:11 AM
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SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Hi all,

Most of you would know that quite a few members have had a SERV 4WD error appear while driving on sand. But there are also quite a few that havent had any problem.

So I thought it would be useful to have a thread where those that have taken their GC on sand, can provide some info and then see if there is a pattern to those that do have the SERV 4WD issue and those that don't.

I know there's a TSB for the Quadralift error (08-034-12), but I dont think that actually addresses the 4WD error. It wouldnt do anything for owners with standard suspension GC's.

If you have driven on sand with your GC, please add a reply to this thread with the following info and share your experience with other members.
  1. Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem?
  2. What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc)
  3. What month and year was your GC built?
  4. Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD)
  5. Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2)
  6. Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? (Sand, Auto, 4WD Low, etc) - (This one may seem silly, but there may be members that dont use sand mode and dont have a problem)
  7. Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard)
  8. How many times have you taken your GC on sand?
  9. On average how long did you stay on the sand?

I havent taken mine on sand yet, but I am planning to when the weather starts warming up here in Australia.

Thanks all!
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:07 PM
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

I havent had problems but only done sand for short distances (couple of k) and no trouble at all, touch wood. In fact I was so impressed how it ate it up. Overland CRD 2012
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

I got a MY11 CRD Limited, no issues, coils non QL, done 3 off road trips using Sand mode all the way, 90% in Hi, 10% in Low, 2 x on Stockton beach, once up muddy tracks in the Barrington Tops, total of about 20 hours in sand mode, never put a foot wrong, great car so far.
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem?

Yes


What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc)

Laredo X

What month and year was your GC built?

August 2011

Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD)

V6

Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2)

Quadra Trac 2

Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? (Sand, Auto, 4WD Low, etc) - (This one may seem silly, but there may be members that dont use sand mode and dont have a problem)

4 wheel high, sand mode. tires aired down to 20psi.

Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard)

Standard, tow package

How many times have you taken your GC on sand?

Once. got the 4WD SERV message, got towed off, never went back. This was in March 2012, issue still not resolved my dealer.

On average how long did you stay on the sand?

About 1 1/2 miles on soft sand at Ft. Fisher, NC.

Spent many trips out there with my '98 Wrangler and my '02 Ford Escape and no problems in either vehicle. Hard to believe the Ford outperformed the JGC on the beach isn't it.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:05 PM
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

[*]Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem? No[*]What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc) Laredo[*]What month and year was your GC built? Oct 2012[*]Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD) CRD [*]Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2) QT2 [*]Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? (Sand, Auto, 4WD Low, etc) - both sand and auto Moderate dry and hard wet sand all in high[*]Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard) quadralift[*]How many times have you taken your GC on sand? Once[*]On average how long did you stay on the sand? 1 week on Fraser Is. [*]level of experience? Experienced - 10 trips to Fraser[*]tyre pressure - 22psi

Performed flawlessly. Went to low for any deep soft sand. The only fault (if you could call it that) was the traction control warning light (in addition to ESC off) was illuminated. I wonder if user error plays a part? Anyone who has had a problem please also indicate your level of sand driving experience and also whether you aired down your tyres.
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[*]Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem? - YES
[*]What level of GC do you have? - Overland

[*]What month and year was your GC built - 2012
[*]Which engine? - CRD
[*]Which 4WD system - Quadra-drive 2
[*]Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? SAND 4wd high
[*]Which suspension? Quadralift
[*]How many times have you taken your GC on sand? - Once
[*]On average how long did you stay on the sand? - 2 hrs
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Never had a problem. Over 50 miles on sand, some very soft and deep. I use sand mode and have never had to put it in low range. Tires at normal inflation. Have done figure eights in deep sand and had no problem exiting beech where a big Chevy Suburban got stuck. Build date 4/11, other info below including pictures.
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem? Yes. 2 times
What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc). Overland
What month and year was your GC built? 08/11
Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD). CRD
Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2). QD2
Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? (Sand, Auto, 4WD Low, etc) - (This one may seem silly, but there may be members that dont use sand mode and dont have a problem). 1st time Sand. 2nd time Auto.
Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard). Quadralift
How many times have you taken your GC on sand? 2 times
On average how long did you stay on the sand? First time 8km. 2nd time 1km
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Hmmm, floosy and I have the same build date. Interesting.
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem? Yes. 1st time out on sand.
What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc). Overland, Off Road Package
What month and year was your GC built? 09/11
Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD). Hemi
Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2). QD2
Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? Sand
Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard). Quadralift
How many times have you taken your GC on sand? 2 Days back to back. Got stuck on the 1st day, got towed out and 4WD error went away. Went back 2nd day and did not experience error but only drove about 2 miles total because I didn't want to get stuck again!
On average how long did you stay on the sand? Day 1- 1 to 2 miles then error followed by getting stuck. Day 2 - 2 miles then got scared and went home!
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

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Never had a problem. Over 50 miles on sand, some very soft and deep. I use sand mode and have never had to put it in low range. Tires at normal inflation. Have done figure eights in deep sand and had no problem exiting beech where a big Chevy Suburban got stuck. Build date 4/11, other info below including pictures.
UPDATE...Went out last weekend in sand again, accidentally went through large hole someone had dug and vehicle handled it with ease. Had I not had the cooler tie strapped in ice and drinks would have been everywhere. Never had a problem at now more than 60 miles on sand. High range only and when entering beech I usually veer off beaten path and hit the deeper stuff. My wife's Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad also handles these tasks with no problem.
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Re: SAND driving - Have you had a problem with your GC?

  1. Did you experience the SERV 4WD problem? No [Edit YES]
  2. What level of GC do you have? (Laredo, Limited, Overland, etc). Overland
  3. What month and year was your GC built? December 2011
  4. Which engine? (Hemi, V6, CRD). Hemi
  5. Which 4WD system? (Quadra-trak 2, Quadra-drive 2). QD2
  6. Which Select Terrain setting do you use on sand? (Sand, Auto, 4WD Low, etc). Always Sand mode with both Lo and Hi range at various times
  7. Which suspension? (Quadralift or standard). QL
  8. How many times have you taken your GC on sand? 3
  9. On average how long did you stay on the sand? 2 days at Double Island Point, 6 days at Moreton Island, 6 days at Fraser.
I had no problems with 20inch rims aired down to 20 psi. I did over 250km over 6 days in really harsh conditions on the sand tracks behind Kingfisher bay on Fraser, also on other trips we covered every inch of Moreton and Cooloolah/Double Island Point. The Jeep was really just fantastic and I feel really confident in it... I did have the traction control light come on a couple of times (same as Mendo), but always went out after a while (I assumed some sensors were loaded with sand).


Does anyone else think the plastic guard that curves down from under the front bumper to the sump to be insufficent? I split mine in half on my first day in the deep sand tracks?
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